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Conservative enablers become collateral damage of conservatives being conservatives...more at 11.
Also if you've never seen the Rittenhouse family they all appear to have iqs below 85 or so.
Look at the sisters quote here...like...uh...like Kyle ..like never helped us ..like even like for my like surgery like .....like like like
I'm absolutely sure his collateral damage is the families of people he murdered.
Murder implies not only an intent to kill without justification or excuse. As piss poor as his excuse was, a teenager from another state trying to protect a strangers property, he still only shot at the very last moment. He's a complete idiot and I believe guilty of manslaughter, but not murder.
It was murder.
Based on...
Probably the murders.
Most people are aware of the distinction and just plain don't care.
Here I was thinking maybe I’d throw them a bone, maybe they were trying to be decent people that his public image and association made life difficult for them. No. Of course not. They just wanted his fame to bring them money. They are who they are.
God, reading that quote from the sister gave me braindamage. How many 'like's can you use before the entire sentence is incomprehensible?
Reading the word as 'um' or 'uh' in a sentence makes it easier to read. I think a proper editor of the commentary would have truncated excessive 'like' use as they would a stammer.
It's honestly unkind to include it in the quote from her. Written down, it is seriously hard to read. But spoken aloud, your brain will filter "filler words" like that out without needing to think too hard about it.
"Save 'merica, or save my fam-fam. Decisions, decisions."
We are stuck in the for profit medical hellscape we constantly vote for!
I'm going to go ahead and post my hot take: I hate that these people are facing eviction and that they're faced with crippling medical debt caused by chronic illness and frequent hospitalization. I don't like these people. I don't agree with their beliefs. I think Kyle Rittenhouse did something unforgivably terrible and that his family likely enabled him and his actions. But I also don't want them to be homeless or to have to deal with medical debt, because those are things that I believe our society should guarantee, as inalienable rights, that no one, regardless of how odious they or their family might be, should have to endure. And I don't care that they (probably) believe differently.
This is what separates people like us from people like them: empathy
The liberal urge to donate to people who are literally and unapologetically trying to fucking shoot you
Okay, I did laugh, but I have to point out that there are people caught in the middle. A lot of folks, no how loudly they yell, or how many flags they burn on TV, don’t actually want to kill anybody. They just want to live. They just want to take care of their families. That’s who liberals are trying to help.
I think what people believe is more a matter of environment, exposure, and upbringing. The Rittenhouses are victims of an ideology that they internalized because they were, in some very real way, made to internalize it. It doesn't benefit them and it exists purely to support systems of power that actively disenfranchise them and people like them. And "our" ideologies, however similar or different your beliefs and mine might be, are just as much a product of environment and conditioning. I'm not entirely sure I can draw the exact line where a society's failure of its own people stops and personal accountability begins when it's tied so intimately to how an individual believes the world is and should be.
I think you’re right. I also think that’s the real reason some conservatives hate college and cities. Living in close proximity to others exposes you to different perspectives, and (hopefully) teaches you that other points of view aren’t automatically wrong. Different isn’t necessarily bad. Your parents, and the values you grew up with, don't have the solution to everything. Lines are much harder to draw.
Us vs them... At least we can all agree on othering people we disagree with
I don’t like it either, but pretending differences don’t exist won’t make those differences go away.
Honestly, same here. I despise what they enabled, and continue to enable. I also despise that they're facing homelessness and serious healthcare issues because nobody should have to face that, regardless of how repugnant I might find their beliefs and actions. I honestly hope that they manage to get out from under this and continue to live long, healthy, and happy lives, because I believe that everyone SHOULD have these things.
I'm not as good a person as you, and I'm sorry. I accept them losing their house as long as it's to someone better. Odds are that's happening.
“people still believe my mother drove Kyle or was somehow involved in his decision to go to Kenosha.”
Was she not sitting right there behind him in court supporting what he did?
my brother was involved in a tragic shooting incident,
Fuck you.
This is the result of raising a leopard. Should had cut him loose.
or maybe Mom shouldn't have paid for his RIFLE
"Involved in a tragic shooting..." Like he wasn't the one doing the shooting 💀
Remember when one of the idiots who participated in his defense came out and said that he fucked up a full ride scholarship to go be a right wing talking head for Turning Point, and called him an antagonistic arrogant dumbass who couldn’t score high enough on his ASVAB to live out his dream of murdering minorities legally overseas?
How the fuck does someone who does that poorly on the ASVAB get a full ride scholarship?
Republican donor groups fell over themselves to prop this guy up as some right-wing hero. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them decided to send him to college on a full ride so that they could continue to point to him in the future as someone who went on to make a success of themselves rather than continue to prove to the world that he's a vicious idiot with no prospects in life.
Asshole who raised an asshole complains about asshole behavior from said asshole.
Damn who could have seen that coming....
Is there some story I missed about his family being assholes?
You raised an asshole. You pay the price.