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Straight forward question. If leftist hate the Democratic Party so much, why don’t they all come together and create their own party. Have their own primaries, campaigns, candidates, etc.

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[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There already are multiple leftist parties in the US. The Green Party is the main one, but there are others.

The issue is that they don't get much press coverage, and a lot of people use the argument that if leftists split off from the Democrats and divide, then the Republicans will win. That keeps a lot of people from voting for those parties.

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your greens are heavily compromised, if I’m not mistaken.

Jill Stein has had dinner with Putin, so yeah, just a wee bit.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ranked choice voting could help with this.

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

A couple of states do have ranked choice voting, but it definitely should be implemented for all.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Problem: there are two competing political parties.

Creates new political party

New situation: there are two competing political parties.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, with the current political system in the US there is simply no way to get a third party any real traction.

Abolish first past the post and the electoral college, then you will see (slow) change, as it stands now, FPTP will only serve to maintain this two party system.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

First past the post:

https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

They'd be handing the extremists on the right an easier win. They need enough energy to grab the Democratic party by the balls.

Basically, you need a voting system that goes "choice number one: Bernie, choice number two: Kamala" etc. At that point, go nuts.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

The easiest switch is Approval Voting, which every tabulation machine in America can handle right now without any issue. Plus, it's very easy to adapt to Sequential Proportional Approval Voting, and proportional representation is the thing that will actually break up the two party system.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

In addition to the practical realities of a 2-party system as others are pointing out, there's the fact that the Left eats its own. Nobody is ever good enough, and compromising with "the enemy" is "bad", hence people can either keep their moral purity and lose, or else compromise their ethics in order to move forward, but not both. For example, Biden reached across the aisle and managed to get a ton of shit done - but who even cared? To anyone not on the right it wasn't enough, while to the right itself it was all (claimed to be) bad to begin with, hence the message of "BoTh SiDeS sAmE" won out and thus the puppetmasters wanting to influence the election got their desires met.

As long as people choose to remain in their ignorance, we can't influence outcomes for either better or worse.

[–] bravesentry@feddit.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

short answer: the u.s. have a winner takes all voting system. splitting the left/liberal would ensure victory for the right.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Are you sure. I feel like leftist talking points and leftist figures are more popular with right wingers than people think. They just hate democrats. You don’t think the right’s base would be effective after 4 years of trump with another party there to vote for?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

splitting the left/liberal would ensure victory for the right.

Not really...

The moderate wing voted against Obama, but it didn't matter because non-voters turned out in greater numbers.

The moderates can't win without the left, but the left can win without moderates.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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