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βThe biometric entry and exit system is not a surveillance program,β the department said in the same document.
Itβs a surveillance program.
But they'll only keep the data for 75 years. /s
In a few years they'll change their minds and say it is in perpetuity.
for Palintir specifically.
#stop going to the states
Unless it's necessary for work, and even then I'd weigh the risks, why the hell are any Canadians crossing the border?
I don't plan on doing it ever again.
Agreed. No one should be crossing the border. It's not worth a trip to El Salvador.
Family?
They can come to a country that is not fascist.
May not always be realistic I suppose, but they could come to Canada.
Edit: assuming we're taking about visiting.
ICE could give a tinkers fuck about family. Look at these uneducated, racist fascists that are shit off a boot scum the wrong way and your off to El Salvador. Itβs getting worse by the day.
I'm not justifying it, nor am I saying you should visit the States (please don't), but I've been photographed on entry/exit of Japan and NZ the last two years of travelling. Fingerprinted as well in Japan.
I guess I'm just saying that this sadly will become more and more normal globally.
I was fingerprinted or might have had just a check when I entered the US when I was not yet a Canadian citizen, after I became a citizen this never needed to be done.
I'm just sick and tired of all this shit. Once upon a time it used to be that you had to be a criminal, and I mean actually convicted of something, to have those things entered anywhere, now they're just doing it to everyone.
The difference is what the US is increasingly doing with their surveillance data.
Obviously increased surveillance of the public is a privacy nightmare no matter who is doing it, but when it's being done by a country that is speedrunning fascism and is disappearing people with no due process, it's a much more acutely worrying probelm.
Yeah as a UK citizen I have been photographed and fingerprinted in the USA for like 10 years...its nothing new really.
I'm surprised about NZ given how much our government has cut services on border control.
I had assumed it was part of the E-Gate. The bit that compares your face to your passport photo.
Theoretically the photo never needs to leave the e-gate system though. I have no idea if it does or doesn't.
Oh, they've expanded that service quite a bit since I last travelled. I had a quick google and it says any captured biometric data is destroyed after 3 months.
But I guess it is still open to being hacked /data the data getting out there somehow
Itβs going to palantir forever. Palantir is in New Zealand theyβre making deals with the devil
Thiel is in NZ so this wouldn't surprise me in the least to be honest.
I wish our government would stop selling citizenship to these fuckwits who only want to make lives of the average person worse
Stay home, save yourselves. We don't deserve your tourism anymore.
Neat. Trump stole the election and I quit going. Haven't been since. Sorry good Americans, but the rest of your lot are fucking morons and I won't be coming back.
We understand
I could literally care less what the process is at the US border for Canadians. As a Canadian, Iβm never going there ever again and thatβs permanent. Not even as a stopover to somewhere else.
Interesting that you could still care less. I'm in the same position and I literally couldn't care any less unless I found some way to negatively care or something
If I could simultaneously upvote and downvote you I would.
upvote twice, same effeffect
Same. I live 30 minutes from the border and haven't been since before Trump's first term. I hope my brother and his family, who live in California, stay healthy, because I wouldn't even fly out for their funeral.
Same, we're 'overdo' to visit family in Mexico but the direct flights are pretty costly but I refuse to even do a layover there now so, guess we need to save up or they come here
2022: Yay, I finally got my Canadian citizenship! Crossing the US border will be much smoother now 2025: psych!
Try me, it will be a boxing day
/s
And another few thousand times per day while they're here.
Well, good thing I won't be crossing into that shit hole country again in my lifetime π
I've no desire to visit a Tin Pot Little North American Country.
Though to be fair, I have been photographed entering other countries like Japan.
Canada photographs its own citizens when flying in, if there's outrage over the US border then why aren't we talking about our own entry protocols?
Because we hate the states
Never had that happen to me. Unless you are referring to the passport verification step.