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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

This is MAGA propaganda to spur them on. Who really thinks it was anyone other than trump and his goons who made this happen. They probably already had the 'shooter' picked out and are planning the frame as we speak. It worked with Luigi so they will just keep doing it until its the US version of fell out a window.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 51 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

We don't even know who did it. This meme is stupid. Could've been another MAGA idiot getting mad at something he said.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Worse than stupid, it's dangerous.

The current fascist administration is DESPERATE to find and paint a segment of a population to not only blame this on, but also to round up and punish that segment.

I don't think we should be cowering in fear of the administration and their cronies, but we can't do any good if we're all locked up, deported to Narnia or being burnt at the stake.

Especially bad considering that this is massively likely to be a right-wing veteran if he's ever caught.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

I wouldn't say they are desperate. They already just make up shit. A true reason is better than a fake one one but so far "crime" has been good enough to slow walk things.

[–] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 7 hours ago

What's funny is that historically, it's usually a maga moron who does something violent. Even the guy who shot Trump voted Republican

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 44 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

My money is on a Trump/CIA plot to distract from the Epstein files.

[–] nilzen@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I would say it's not even to distract as much as to silence him. If you watch the event, he was talking about it 20 minutes before being shot. He was saying that other republicans needed to answer for blocking the release of said files. The fact he wasn't letting go of the epstein case and he has one of the biggest followings of young republicans, he was a threat to whoever doesn't want that discussed. It's possible it could have been something else, but who knows?

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

If true, things are not looking great for Nick Fuentez.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I swear, Trump could order the military to murder every single person left on the political spectrum of Hitler tomorrow, and people would be like "Stop trying to distract from the Epstein files".

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, we have a pedophile in the white house, and an open cover up of it. A normal person would be on trial right now, and/or already in prison. We should be making a big deal about it.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

i'm more than a bit skeptical that "the left" was responsible for this. I think its highly likely that this was a false flag attack.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

given the location and the years i lived there, knowing nothing else i'd think it's someone who thinks kirk wasn't far right enough

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yah it's more likely than not some unhinged, violent right-winger either listening to the voices telling him who's actually a lizard person or that Charlie Kirk is actually a clone and/or involved with some Q-anon fuckery.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHO IT ALWAYS IS.

When you're someone who wants to solve the world's problems via rifles with scopes, you're not a balanced, well-adjusted person to begin with. I'm sure there are plenty of people with left-leaning ideas who fit this bill, but we're just talking probabilities here.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I fucking hate BlueAnon. Sure there's a good chance it was someone even farther right than he was, but not everything is a false flag. Do you have literally any evidence of it being a false flag beyond "just think about it bro"?

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that the bullet casings supposedly had "transgender" wording inscribed on them is a little too convenient to not raise suspicion. Either A) whole thing was setup or B) evidence is being doctored. C) Could be all on the up and up and everything just falls into place perfectly, but how likely really?

I wouldn't be surprised if evidence was being tampered with or mishandled, but there's a lot of distance between mishandled/misleading evidence and a false flag attack. If there's evidence of a false flag that's one thing, but I'm gonna need more than "think about it, is everything really on the up and up?"

[–] kidney_stone@lemmy.world 65 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

Is there any confirmation that the shooter was in any way a leftist, or motivated by left wing ideals? From all I know, it was some random guy who could have been a right winger who thinks Trump is centralizing the government which goes against his Ayn Rand ideology; or it could just be a loonie.

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

None, here's what we probably know

It was probably done with a rifle at some point, shooter was on a roof, shooter ran away, that's about what we know at this point.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

For all we know, it could have been an incompetent hunter two kilometres away.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 8 points 17 hours ago

Sir this happened in Utah they use God's own units.

Since it was a rifle we use football fields. 22 football fields away.

American football of course. We have no idea how many football pitches this might have been. 3? 200? There's just no way to know.

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[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

As far as I can tell, they know absolutely nothing at this moment in time. So just you generic "the people I don't like did it" rhetoric.

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[–] Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This sucks for Kirk's family. They should release the Epstein files.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

those kids will totally get bullied by other kids showing them the video of their dad dying. that's all I really feel bad about today.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yea. About the only thing sad about this.

Like, they are still kids, Charlie might have been a bigoted fascist but that's far too complicated for children to fully understand; to them, he was just "Dad".

It is truly unfortunate for them they had the ill fate of being born to such a horrible person, but that horrid person was spreading rhetoric which has resulted in countless other children losing parents themselves. All I can hope is that those kids grow up to understand this.

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

No amount of mourning their "Dad" will ever compensate the hate he had for his daughter when he said he would allow her to give birth if raped... at age 9.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 23 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (19 children)

Didn't they not even find the shooter? It could be like trump's failed assassin

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[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 201 points 1 day ago (47 children)

We dont yet know if the assassin is from the left

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 73 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I'm willing to bet it's a right-winger. Some deranged psycho that bought into the right-wing conspiracy hate sphere they always use and has an axe to grind with Charlie's flip on releasing the Epstein files.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 142 points 1 day ago (26 children)

I mean, just going off the last two people who shot at trump in the last year...

There's no reason to say this wasn't MAGA yet.

It could be someone who thought Kirk wasn't going far enough because he still wanted to talk

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