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Not even justifying his death - conservatives will whine about anyone who correctly points out the fact that neither a bulletproof vest, security, nor a good guy with a gun would have saved Charlie Kirk. But he might still be alive if 1) The U.S. had sensible gun regulations, and 2) If the right hadn't been ridiculing the very idea of empathy and celebrating every murder of their political opponents over the past 10 years.

Right-wing politics and its consequences killed Charlie Kirk.


And as the right continues to bemoan left-wing violence, it's important to remember that political violence is very much a right-wing issue: https://youtu.be/B2MB2re24oA?t=962

~~Sorry about the shitty AI audio, I was trying something new hoping that it would make the whole video-making process easier and it didn't work out at all. If you set the speed to 1.25 it'll sound a bit more reasonable.~~

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

What happened to the empathetic left is that after years of it being taken advantage of we stopped caring about what the right thinks of us

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 20 minutes ago

I'm sick of the media trying to gaslight me into thinking that this dude getting blasted is a bad thing. IDGAF about political violence at this point. When Republicans commit acts of political violence, it's downplayed or even openly celebrated by the highest level of government (e.g. Trump making fun of Paul Pelosi). When a Democrat does it (and we still don't know what the shooter's political affiliation was) suddenly we need to "turn down the temperature" and Dem politicians start strongly condemning acts of political violence, saying it's not the way we do things here. But when you have one side strongly embracing fascism and the political left doing absolutely nothing to stop them, we've gone beyond our ability to handle this any other way. Part of the problem is Trump himself fanning the flames of divisiveness by preemptively blaming the attack on "radical leftists".

If we're going to get blamed either way, why not embrace the narrative that the right so desperately wants to sell their base?

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Need so much more of this.

Every right leaning person I know is acting like they're so concerned and heart broken then calling for extermination of leftist as if they weren't always hateful or callous when someone on the left was killed

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Empathy is a sin and we're tired of being sinners when it comes to the right.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

"I can't stand the word 'empathy', actually. I think 'empathy' is a made-up, new-age term, and it does a lot of damage."
--Charlie Kirk

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 75 points 11 hours ago

Bad faith argument, stop taking American conservatives seriously, lol. Don't you understand they argue "to win" and build a nice narrative for their crimes, not because they believe in truth and the collective good? 😓

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Gun policy 👌👍

Just be happy he's dead. Stop trying to fuck around with 2a and blowing momentum.

"But, but, but, but guns bad 🥺 just call the nice neighborhood police officer who lives two doors down that you've known since childhood!"

[–] Soulg@ani.social 26 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

What's the 41% in reference to?

[–] Ragdoll_X@sh.itjust.works 57 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Some large-scale surveys suggest that about 40% - 41% of trans people have attempted suicide at least once in their life. There are studies that report even higher rates, and I've occasionally seen transphobes also use "43%" instead of "41%", but the latter estimate is the most famous one.

Of course, such a high rate of suicide attempts isn't met with any empathy or concern from conservatives, but with false claims that gender affirmation is harmful for trans people, and often outright glee as well.

[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

If we had empathy we’d pass universal healthcare - most gun deaths are suicides, more than any other form. gunviolencearchive.org. Banning guns won’t help, those people will still want to be dead. Fewer of them may succeed, but the human misery will still be there.

And by we I mean my fellow Democrats. Republicans don’t even pretend to give a shit.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 hours ago

Shit, I can’t even remember all of their dog whistles anymore. It’s either the untreated trans suicide rate or the percentage of crimes attributed to black people. Either way, bigoted