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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 138 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Democratic governor has publicly questioned whether the state has the authority to regulate federal law enforcement

My guy - you’re just the governor; not a judge. You don’t have to do the fascists’ job for them.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The quote:

“We have a bill — we’re looking at the constitutionality of it,” Newsom said. “It appears we don’t have the legal authority for federal agents, but we do for other law enforcement authorities. There’s some amendments being made in the bill and our legal team’s looking at it.”

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because he wants to run for president and basically doesn’t want to alienate anyone except the super die hard Trump supporters he couldn’t win anyway. For everything else he’s spineless and a career politician

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool, because everything he says isolates the progressive base that he is going to need to win. Newsome will get absolutely pummeled in any national elections

[–] overthere@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The last few elections have taught them that they don’t need to win over the progressives. They need to capture that centrist/center-right majority that are looking for a reason to ditch the Republican Party. I expect they’ll lean into that in the mid-terms and in 2028.

[I wish I could end this with /s.]

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's like the lesson they learned was to run a white guy to win over the misogynistic racist voting block.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yet they and all their blue MAGA fanatics attack every leftist who criticizes them and/or refuses to support them cause "you not supporting us will cause us to lose and the fascists to win!!!" ignoring that libs are also vile fascist trash.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

Because he wants to make explicitly clear that he is a good guy who plays by the rules, ignoring the fact that the bad guys are currently writing the rules so the good guys will allways loose.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe just do it anyways. And when the fascists say that’s not allowed, respond “fuck you, make me”

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I feel like doing it and forcing the federal government to bring up a lawsuit would be worth the effort.

[–] livejamie@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gavin Newsom isn't going to save anybody from fascism

I agree, he is not.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hear diy law enforcement is now ok. Just modify the bill to let any concerned citizen file suit. Let the gestapo deal with millions of pesky lawsuits

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Their judges can just throw them all out

[–] dangling_cat@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Delayed justice is no justice. That’s the strategy being used by Trump for ages. What Newsom should do is to enforce a bunch of state laws anyway, let the courts pile up, keep delaying them, become president, and dismiss those lawsuits.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's different than people directly suing the federal government.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The federal government has to consent to being sued. If they don't like the law, sucks to be us.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Justice is always delayed, that's what separated the rule of law from mob justice. Jurisprudence means the careful dissection of the evidence to build a case worth proceeding with. The law is very specific about these things. Just because you don't exist under the rule of law anymore doesn't make that not true.

[–] dangling_cat@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And nothing stops evil people from abusing the system. They do a bunch of crimes and use the advantage from said crimes to gain leverage over their case, like paying for good lawyers, bribing the jury, or even owning the entire justice system. Like, for them, criminal cases are investments.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yup. Laws are for the poors. Doesn't mean we can't demand better, especially when heinous crimes are exposed. Shame the fuck out of those fuckers.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, well we’d better not try anything then.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I never said don't try anything. I'm just saying this particular tactic is highly unlikely to do anything but overwork a few court clerks.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Still wastes their time.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao like the other guys give a fuck about legal authority

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hopefully this is the first step in a state arresting federal brown shirts for not following state laws

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hopefully at least gumming up the works.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 114 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Being a federal officer doesn't exempt you from state laws.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, and without appropriate identification on hand or prior notification to state or local authorities about activities, a masked person who claims to be an immigration officer, can be presumed by a reasonable person to be breaking this law (if passed), until they are positively identified as federal kidnappers instead of run-of-the-mill kidnappers. In the current state, they can just do whatever without people being able to tell the difference between a criminal assault vs. an enforcement operation.

[–] commanderschlepper@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

Agree 100%. There are already reports of fake ICE sexually assaulting people...

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

I’m worried the courts might rule that way although they shouldn’t.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why did they get travel letters during COVID then?

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Every state has exceptions to quarantine laws that allow people that need to move to keep government or healthcare functioning, to do so? Those "travel letters" identified said persons.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 74 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If these people are carrying out actual justice, why would they need to hide their identity?

What reason is there for having all this secrecy?

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Remember what happened to the members of the SS after Hitler fell?

That's why.

They know that what they're doing is illegal and that it's going to come back to bite them in the ass sooner or later.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

Aha loads of SS got away. There was like a quarter million members and the Allies didn't give a shit about them because they were focused on the Soviets. A couple at the top got pinched but the vast majority who lived through the war didn't get harsh punishment.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Well, and doxxing now. It's not just a later thing. Most of them can't plan 5 seconds into the future.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

How many of these coward fucks would quit if they knew there could be consequences for their actions?

I like this plan.

[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Same.

I'm a Californian before I'm an American. Especially in this shithole timeline.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

following the law is not something these nazis do anyway.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Supreme Court in 5... 4... 3... 2...