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    [โ€“] cygnus@lemmy.ca 182 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

    Me using KDE Plasma because I prefer to work with my computer rather than work on my computer:

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I caved and used KDE on my last install, and boy do I miss Gnome.

    Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

    [โ€“] ray@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Couldn't you just install Gnome now? Most distros have packages for Gnome and KDE, and there's usually nothing stopping you from installing them both.

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

    I could, but I'll probably stick with KDE until I reinstall. It ain't broke, just not exactly what I want.

    [โ€“] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

    can't you just customise KDE to just work like gnome?

    [โ€“] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yes but it takes a lot of work

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    [โ€“] Eldritch@piefed.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

    Possible? Yes. Accomplishable, dunno. You can get very close visually etc. Far closer than making GNOME look like KDE. But I have a feeling that some of the panel meaning dropdowns etc would be the first places to falter. Though, maybe someone has fitting panel apps already.

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

    For the most part, yes, but as the commenter above put it so eloquently...

    [โ€“] MuckyWaffles@leminal.space 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I'm a gnome fan myself, though I've been using a lot of distros without systemd recently while gnome has started requiring it so I'm probably not going to be seeing gnome for a while.

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

    That's interesting. I come from the Gentoo world, so Gnome without systemd isn't too uncommon.

    [โ€“] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    The rare double ambiguity: "work on" and "work with" could both have two meanings with opposite effects in the sentence

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    [โ€“] DeltaWingDragon@sh.itjust.works 112 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Meanwhile, desktop environment users:

    [โ€“] Ephera@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, have not heard about any of these problems before this post...

    [โ€“] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I am out of the loop, whatโ€™s going on with hyperland?

    Is this a continuation of the DHH issues?

    [โ€“] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I assume it's about hyprland changing the syntax for window rules like.. 6 days ago

    [โ€“] toasterbotnet@piefed.social 50 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Yes. It's not even an inconvenience to update, but people with bloated third party dotfiles got blasted with a million error messages and are making confused reddit posts

    [โ€“] Jhex@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

    indeedโ€ฆ I took what I learnt from someone's dotfile project to build my own minimalist oneโ€ฆ took me an afternoon to set up and everything has been rock solid since

    not bad mouthing the dotfiles project I learnt fromโ€ฆ they did great but I just did not need that much

    It was actually pretty inconvenient because I found the syntax for "anonymous rules" basically undocumented.

    [โ€“] Zangoose@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I couldn't have picked better timing to switch to niri if I tried.

    [โ€“] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

    Same. love niri though. I think Iโ€™m going to keep it

    [โ€“] cadekat@pawb.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
    [โ€“] boringbisexual@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    There are dozens of us. I've been using niri for almost a year now and I think I would be lost if I switched to anything else.

    [โ€“] Zangoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I don't love the way niri handles workspaces across multiple monitors so far but my problems with it are also minor enough that I'm pretty sure I can fix it myself with a script or IPC program if it really starts to bother me

    [โ€“] neketos851@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

    tiktok window manager rise!

    [โ€“] ne0phyte@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yup. Been on Niri for a couple of months and it works very well and is super stable.

    Niri seems to have a vision whereas Hyprland folks just seem to push as many features and changes as they can with little consideration.

    [โ€“] Zangoose@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

    I used hyprland on my laptop for about a year and the thing that bothered me the most (aside from the toxic community) was how often I had to rewrite chunks of it after every major update. I'm definitely glad that the niri devs are treating its config stability more seriously.

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    [โ€“] teft@piefed.social 35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Are newbies really installing hyprland? I would think they'd stick with kde/gnome/cinnamon.

    [โ€“] F04118F@feddit.nl 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    In an ideal world.

    But in our world, newbies are being recommended:

    • Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)
    • A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy ๐Ÿคฎ)
    • NixOS. I don't even known where to begin with this one.

    To be 100% clear, I use and like CachyOS and Nix (home manager). CachyOS and NixOS are great projects with good technical performance toward their respective goals (good defaults and performance on Arch, and declarative configuration, respectively), but they are not beginner friendly.

    [โ€“] Zwiebel@feddit.org 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Meanwhile my Fedora ass whos done nothing but run updates for like five years

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    [โ€“] teft@piefed.social 19 points 2 weeks ago

    Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)

    You're absolutely right. The other day I ran into a guy using arch who didn't know what a tarball was or how to compile software. I was like 'the fuck?'.

    I should have thought of the newbies who just follow guides and might not know they've gotten in over their heads.

    [โ€“] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy ๐Ÿคฎ)

    AntiX, fast, lightweight, and proudly anti-fascist...

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    [โ€“] Zozano@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

    In some ways I think NixOS is good for beginners. I started with Ubuntu, then Arch, then NixOS.

    I managed to break Ubuntu and Arch in some really weird ways which made reinstalling my root directory easier than diagnosing the issues.

    You cannot break NixOS unless you do some funky chroot shit or rebuild with temporary partitions.

    This isn't to suggest newbies should choose NixOS as a first distro, learning NixOS will give you a skill set which will not translate to knowledge about how other Linux OS's work (because it breaks file system conventions).

    However... If you know how to use NixOS, you're living a post distro-hopping life, having ascended to godhood, and letting the Arch users know you use Nix BTW.

    [โ€“] HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Third top post of all time to r/r/unixporn is a slick hyprland + quickshell rice and they linked their dotfiles + configs. how is a brother to resist trying it?

    [โ€“] teft@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

    That's how they get ya...

    [โ€“] Bubblebath@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I am a newbie with hyprland. Got introduced to it with a bog video, and because it was keyboard only, it was a good fit for my dell nuggetbook with a poor trackpad. It isn't my only machine, so I felt safe enough in doing so.

    It has taken a bit of configuring the files, but I have really enjoyed the process of learning.

    So for me it was a way of reviving a machine that was painful to use.

    Also most rice I have seen are hyprland. Probably doesn't help

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    [โ€“] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    People actually looked at Omarchy and said fuck yeah punch it?

    [โ€“] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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    [โ€“] lian_drake@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    And that is why I no longer use Hyprland and actually thinking about removing that branch from my dotfiles repo. Why vaxry doesn't seem to understand the concept of "deprecation"?

    [โ€“] ne0phyte@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I moved on to Niri a couple of months ago for various reasons, constantly having to fix and re-check my config against the docs being one of them.

    For me Niri performs better, I really like the workflow and the dev behind it is very deliberate with new features and changes. Feels like he has a clear vision on how it's supposed to work and it shows imo.

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    [โ€“] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    Dumbest thing in software imo, is when I see software that is obviously worthy of being out of v0 (beta, alpha, etc), stay in v0.

    Though since it still is v0, I guess we can't expect much.

    Not sure why it is, maybe there is a good reason, but the software functions well enough for a stable release, though at the same time, this is a very small scale operation with great ambitions and a big userbase. If you api needs to be updated, it's obviously much easier to just push a breaking change than to maintain a migration period.

    There's a lot of nuance, but I'd like more software to just enter v1 when it works as intended and then breaking changes can increment the major version rather than staying in v0 which is harder to tell when a breaking change happens.

    p.s. so far config changes in hyprland have only been a 5 min fix so i haven't experienced this fuss yet, maybe soon!

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    [โ€“] JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I'll take the Mango, thank you.

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    [โ€“] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

    I'm so glad my hyprpand setup got nuked before this, so I didn't have to deal with it /j

    [โ€“] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Hyprland hereโ€ฆ just happy to be in the meme

    [โ€“] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

    X gOoD wAyLaNd bAd

    [โ€“] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

    The linked converter fixed the deprecated config in a sec for me.

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