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Hello!! Some recent technical problems on my family's NAS gave me a big scare and finally pushed me to figure out a way to back it all up. I'm asking here specifically because I really don't know where to even starts because of the fact I've got just under 50 terabytes worth of data stored in a 7-disk RAID-5 and would prefer to keep it cheap. What are your suggestions?

Edit: thank you for all the suggestions, I'll probably be considering using Backblaze for backups, or perhaps seeing if I can scrounge up old unused disks from people I know. Thank you all again <3

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (5 children)

How much of that 50 terabytes is media downloaded from the Internet? Because the cheapest way would be to trust that it's already backed up on the Internet and then use one of the usual services like B2 by Backblaze or Storagebox by Hetzner to back the rest of it up.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is a good compromise. When I was tight on backup space, I just had a “backup” script that ran nightly and wrote all the media file names to a text file and pushed that to my backup.

It would mean tons of redownloading if my storage array failed, but it was preferable to spending hundreds of dollars I didn't have on new hardware.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

If you tested whether those files had healthy seeds on the Net, that would actually be a pretty cool idea. But I have some rather rare Linux ISOs that definitely don't get seeded anymore so those I would want to not lose and actually backup.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you back up the modern day Arrs databases then it's essentially the same thing and already built into the software that will redownload them for you. That's my solution. I backup my backups of those, of my home assistant, my Immich library, my Nextcloud, etc... Pirated media is, for the most part, out there backed up on several places already.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

This is what I do - well, I back up there entire container. But functionally the same.

There's only a few pieces of media that I have backed up manually due to their rarity, but even those I don't really care about.

[–] morto@piefed.social 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But... can we trust that we will have stuff available on the internet in the future?

[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

All my TV shows and movies, I don't bother. But my 150gb mp3 library I keep backed up because it's much smaller and I know some of that stuff is not readily available online.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Exactly. Regimes want to kill this as fast as they can to milk us of every penny witghr their shitty services. I dont trust any sites will stay up.

[–] kumi@feddit.online 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You can replicate across more than one provider and do automated regular monitoring that backups are still accessible.

If one goes down you hopefully have time to figure out a replacment before the other(s) do.

Probably not worth it for a bunch of xvid dvdrips or historical archives of full system-level backups but for critical data it's sensible.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, if 90% of that is movies/shows, then you really don't need a backup of that as you can always re-download it. Then you have a 5TB backup problem which is much cheaper to solve.

[–] Inkstainthebat@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's kinda complicated because a good chunk of that is data that is technically redownloadable, but has been tweaked (most of my movies are a multiplexed high-res eng version merged with audio from lower-res dub.) Either way, thank you for the suggestions

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I suggest making a script that uses existing software (ie mkvtoolnix) to extract the dubbed audio and then backing that up and l leaving the high quality video to the Web to backup.

I know it's less than ideal but you can automate both extracting it and muxing it back in. It may take some effort to setup, but it's well worth the huge recurring costs incurred from backing up that amount of data.

Just an idea to consider.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because the cheapest way would be to trust that it’s already backed up on the Internet

That's a shit load of downloading. LOL wow!

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I have 45TB of data and the majority of that is definitely downloaded media. They call us data hoarders for a reason.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh sure I understand data hoarding. I was just thinking, to restore 50 tb from the internet is going to take more than a fortnight.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

It's literally downloading the same amount of data you would be backing up, and you won't be charged hourly for downloading it from the internet as opposed to a large storage service.

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[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

My suggestion: Buy 3x 28TB drives. Mirror the data to them. Then move them off site.

The off-site location could either be a family member's home where you can then sync to the drives over the internet. Or in a PO box nearby that you retrieve them from time to time to re-sync the data.

[–] EarMaster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That is the cheapest option. Maybe the most convenient or most reliable option, but definitely the cheapest.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would definitely keep them warm, as in a running machine.

Drives on a shelf die more often than always-on drives.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Tape is still the cheapest and best archival medium. Drives are expensive, but the actual tape is cheap. But 50TB might not be enough to justify.

[–] cm0002@suppo.fi 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm heavily researching tape for my data, I currently sit around 400TBs Total but only around 200 in data that id actually want to backup and can't just redownload.

Iirc the break even point 100-150TB

ETA: that break even point might actually be lower now that I think about it since that number is probably outdated when I did it and doesn't account for the shortage crap

[–] androidul@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I just came here to say exactly the same thing. Tapes for the long term, but you also have to take reaaaaaly good care of how they’re stored ie. don’t store them under the kitchen sink in your bathroom

[–] Mad_Punda@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

My kitchen sink in the kitchen is fine though? What about the bathroom sink?

/s

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

The tape drive costs more or less 2000€ (without VAT), the tapes cost about 80-100 for a 15tb drive (and compressed capacity doesnt count as the to be backed up data is probably not just a database or text.

Don't think there are much economic options beside finding the cheapest S3 storage or a secondary backup server.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

In the backup world, 50TB isn't really a lot, and you're not really ready to talk about tape systems or maintaining an always-on disk system. Also, HDD's have been getting more expensive due to AI idiocy. But, cheapest is probably a second raid system, like 4x 20tb drives. Do the backup at home and then move the backup system off site and either keep it spinning, or make sure to spin up and test the individual drives every so often.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Backblaze personal is about the cheapest I know of: $99 per year unlimited. Caveats would be that the drives have to be physically connected to the computer doing the backup. Additionally, should you ever need to restore the backup, the best way would be to buy a 10 tb drive from Backblaze, restore the data, then send the drive back for a full refund x 5. Restoring 50 tb online would be excruciating.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm currently backing up my NAS to Backblaze Personal by mounting the drives using Dokany. They appear as local drives and the Backblaze client accepts them for backup.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That's worth a bookmark. Thanks for the share.

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[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago

Cold storage solutions would be cheapest if you don't need to access it often, if you do then Backblaze b2.

Lastly you could do your own backup (drives sitting at a friends of family's place?)

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

First: there is no cheap way to back this amount of data up. AWS Glacier would be about $200/mo, PLUS bandwidth transfer charges, which would be something like $500. R2 would be about $750/mo, no transfer charges. So assume that most companies with some sort of whacky, competing product would be billed by either of these companies with you as a consumer, and you can figure out how this is the baseline of what you'll be getting charged from them.

50TB of what? If it's just readily available stuff you can download again, skip backing that up. Only keep personal effects, and see how much you can reduce this number by.

Bb would be ~300$/month for 50tb

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

AWS Glacier would be about $200/mo, PLUS bandwidth transfer charges, which would be something like $500. R2 would be about $750/mo

50TB on a Hetzner storage box would be $116/month, with unlimited traffic. It'd have to be split across three storage boxes though, since 20TB is the max per box. 10TB is $24/month and 20TB is $46/month.

They're only available in Germany and Finland, but data transfer from elsewhere in the world would still be faster than AWS Glacier.

Another option with Herzner is a dedicated server. Unfortunately the max storage they let you add is 2 x 22TB SATA HDDs, which would only let you store 22TB of stuff (assuming RAID1), for over double the cost of a 20TB storage box.

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[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First thing is decide what data you have that can be readily replaced. e.g. publicly available Linux ISOs. Then remove that from your backup strategy. You may end up with a lot less data needing backup.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 1 week ago

Exactly, you can just redownload them later. But pay attention if you have rare Linux ISOs, maybe because of their quality or if they're in a specific language.

[–] degenerate_neutron_matter@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sort your data into stuff you absolutely need to keep (personal files and such) and stuff you'd be okay with losing (less important files, device backups, downloads you can redownload, etc). Then only back up the former. As for backup medium, ServerPartDeals often has some pretty good deals on storage; they were selling refurbished 12TB drives for $80 a pop a while back.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

They haven't been selling anything that cheap since the AI driven hard drive shortage. A refurbished 12TB drive is around $200 now.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is it data you would trust in the hands of random strangers on the internet? If so, I can easily store 50TB for you, as long as it's temporary.

Oh, and I have various storage solutions in various jurisdictions, so if you have any preferences as to places you do NOT want to store it, that's something you need to hilight.

[–] 8263ksbr@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

... this is odly nice of you. Sorry, but are you really willing to trust a random internet stranger to store up to 50TB of data on your machines? The data could be literally anything and might put you into trouble 😵‍💫

No offense, just curiosity

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what's the difference to storing it on a company's platform?

sign a thing that says there's nothing illegal in it. done.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, encrypt before sending. Plausible deniability is a real thing.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah I'm not OP (and I'm not offering this service to the public) but anything I'm ever hosting for anyone else should be zero-knowledge encrypted. I don't want to be able to know what's in other people's data. THAT makes me uncomfortable. As long as it's encrypted, and I don't have the key, it's just random bits as far as I'm concerned.

I don't care what you use your random bits for. None of my business.

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[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

https://diskprices.com/

is the best resource for finding cheap personal digital storage, last i looked into it not sure how up-to-date that site is kept though

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Gee, that's a lot of homework.

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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NFS Network File System, a Unix-based file-sharing protocol known for performance and efficiency
SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
SFTP Secure File Transfer Protocol for encrypted file transfer, over SSH
SMB Server Message Block protocol for file and printer sharing; Windows-native
SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access
ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

The cheapest medium is tape. It is by far the lowest price per terabyte. The tradeoff is that the drives are pricey, even the used ones, and it's a huge pain to read the data back out (but in a recovery scenario, that's tolerable).

[–] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

4-bay DAS with a handful of big HDDs in RAIDZ1. Load it up, then store it in your office at work or at a friend or family member's house. Retrieve, update, and scrub somewhere between once every few weeks to once every few months, depending on how often your critical data is changing.

[–] dieTasse@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nobody said this here but storj is one of the cheapest storage out there and it's has redundancy and is distributed. And if you have truenas, it's kinda baked right in. They had some hiccups when communicating changes to the community, but overall nice folks.

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[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago

Install W11… your data will be backed up…just not the way you want it.

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