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A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

Bucha Bull to me.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 290 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (23 children)

What a fucking joke that would be on US American networks.

We are ranked like 30th in the world for bandwidth. No fiber dropped to the curb but the billionaires. And shit slow 20th century wireless speeds with technical acumen that we see today in Verizon's ongoing 8 hour outage.

Bezos is so out of touch it is clown-like and stupid.

They want a data center heavy world but have no fucking pipeline to get data in and out for the rest of us.

What a human dildo.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 193 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

Bezos is so out of touch it is stupid.

Is he out of touch or has he just recognized that 50% of the economic activity is already from the top 10% of the population?

I get the feeling the wealthy have just written off the bottom 90% of society and don't actually give a flying fuck if anything works for us or not. He knows his core sales will go to people who do have fiber at their doorstep.

Maybe we're the ones out of touch thinking they plan on having a place for us in this world at all.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 68 points 5 days ago

Thats the plan, organize yourselves now before they do it for you

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Even Ford, piece of utter feculence he was, understood that if you gave people money and time to spend it they'll give it right back to you and everyone gets to come up together.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 35 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Can we not pretend the problem is solely performance based? People keep doing this with generative AI and it keeps resulting in "oh shit, ghibli AI is so awesome".

Especially since... can you watch a twitch stream? Congrats, you can stream a desktop. Even back with Stadia it was very much viable to play games like AssCreed over streaming and have a very comparable experience to it being local. And stuff like Geforce Now actually work REALLY well.

The issue shouldn't be "can you make this perform well enough I want to use it". It should be about ownership and the implication for.. everything if all "personal computers" exist solely in a data center and all documents exist solely in The Cloud and so forth. Preservation of anything becomes nigh impossible and you suddenly have to pay a monthly fee to ever see your kid's pictures again.

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[–] Foofighter@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Step 1: Raise sales prices artificially

Step 2: Create affordable alternatives to rent.

Step 3: Wait until enough people claim that its cheaper and more comfortable to just rent.

Step 4: Wait until maket is destroyed.

Step 6: Raise prices.

"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

  • Blackstone
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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 236 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (18 children)

We went from mass surveillance to hardware confiscation real quick.

These companies are so large that they don’t need the consumer market anymore. The consumer is now the competition. They can essentially purchase the entire planet’s output of computing hardware years in advance to force us out of the market and lease it back to us at inflated rates. Then, they turn all that tensor compute against us to make everyone’s life a living digital surveillance hell.

Forget Internet freedom, computational liberty is now at risk. Who needs all that expensive legal and technological architecture to steal your data, report on you to the government, and enforce DRM when they control bare metal access to your rented corporate cloud hardware because consumer PC equipment is too astronomically expensive to afford for the average person?

We need to elevate the prosecution of anti-trust to the level of religious inquisition, and burn these companies at the stake. They’re using AI to literally enslave humanity, and it’s working.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 5 days ago (21 children)

I can't agree with this more, but what's the plan exactly?

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sounds perfect for some trust-busting action. If only we had a capable government...

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[–] phx@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At the same time I'm seeing a bunch of ads for "hardware is getting too expensive, use Akamai cloud for your gaming etc instead, now with AI blah blah!"

Bitch, you're the reason hardware is so expensive!

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 66 points 5 days ago

Unsurprising that capitalists want to seize all the means of computation for themselves.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 80 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Ok so the tactic is to drain the corporations of their money.

  • piracy
  • dis-enshittification
  • jailbreaking devices
  • opensource hardware
  • decentralization
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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Everything a subscription. You'll own nothing and like it!

And, people, I can't stress this enough, FUCK JEFF BEZOS!

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[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 days ago

I'll give up computers entirely before I rent one from you greedy pricks.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 61 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Hey Jeff — you know what I think is antiquated and should be relegated to the annals of history?

Billionaires.

Go away and live your life of luxury and shut the fuck up. Don't you have enough fucking money?

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When AWS had the major outage recently, my self-hosted services kept on running. The programs on my Linux machines and other devices I own were also not impacted. Thanks, Jeff, but I’ll stick with my “antiques”. Also, fuck you.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 37 points 5 days ago

"Hopes", more like will be doing a bunch of anti-competitive bullshit to ensure that this is your only option.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 days ago

Yeah bud, maybe if you get just a little more money, you'll finally be complete. Just a little more money....

[–] Eldritch_Alyx@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Imagine the unparalleled censorship when the far-right tech elites decide what you can do on "your" computer.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] orosus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

There is no cloud, just someone else computer.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago

yeah you know what i always thought hey this PC cost me a lot, i wish I could keep paying for it indefinitely.

[–] borQue@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago

Murica is a deranged shithole. Linux is our only way out of this. To all hardware manifacturers: Build your goddamn drivers for it and free us!

~cry in the capitalist vacuum...

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 32 points 5 days ago

Fuck you Jeff.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Good luck with that.

Signed,

A person who has recently started pulling all their files from cloud storage like Google Drive and Dropbox

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Nothing is ever enough for these greedy fucks

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 5 days ago (5 children)

i will never in my life get any subscription to anything, that doesnt have to be a subscription.

so far i'm fine with:

internet connection and my phone number

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'll own nothing and you'll be happy?

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 5 days ago

Fuck that shit. Switch to Linux.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

"You will own nothing and LIKE IT!"

Yeah go screw yourself Tech weirdo's. You could help us, instead you just bleed us dry for profits.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago

That's Nvidia's whole game plan. Subscription to use their hardware. Limits on hours of gaming. Pay to play more hours.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

As @TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com stated. This would never work in the US without major overhaul to existing infastructure. I'm rocking a 32/32 Mbps atm. My parents? they get 5. I have to enable steam to limit itself to 512kb/s download or I will take down their network as a whole and if anyone is using youtube or netflix it has to be a 240p or it starts to granulate. Remind me how a cloud based PC is going to work in this state.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Easy, they will just be locked out of having access to computing, that way they can only get their news and information from right-wing AM talk radio.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

Techno-feudalism, ladies and gentlemen.

[–] enjoyingcarp650@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

I would rather never touch a computer again than rent one.

[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago

Why in the fuck did we move away from mainframes and dumb terminals in the first place, Bozes? Now back to that, but... cloud based, and we pay you to fuckin own everything? Get bent!

[–] morto@piefed.social 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated

People should be more aware that appeal to making you feel old or antiquated is one of the main strategies from corporations to push their products into you.

No, you're not antiquated. Just be yourself and do things the way you like to do, not the way corporations want to force you into. No one should judge you, and if they do, they're wrong for judging others for their way to do things. Don't fall for that trap

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[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 31 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Better yet, over Jeff Bezos' dead body.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (5 children)

So, these idiots didn't learn their lesson the first time with the colossal flop that was Stadia and now they want to convince us that, this time for sure, we really don't want to own our own hardware and cloud computing is the future?

These guys should not be getting a single bent penny for convincing people to switch over to cloud computing when their AI slop machines are responsible for the scarcity that is causing hardware prices to be completely uneconomical.

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 days ago

if they keep pushing it, eventually the younger generation will just comply.

we need to continue to educate the new generations that the rich/CEO/tech freaks like bozo cannot be trusted, they lie, and their goal is to make us own nothing and pay for it.

make it clear what their true goal is. media cannot be trusted to assist in this. citizens of the world must be loud at every moment we can be.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If you want to be financially free, have no debt. Pay off any loans, dont have subscriptions. Make your monthly costs to be as low as possible.

That is freedom but its the opposite of what is advertised.

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[–] Vrag@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Since the ubiquity of smartphones, PC relevancy has been on the decline, and now with the pricing out of regular people, I imagine they will eventually become a completely niche and rare thing, to the point where even renting them out won't be common or necessary. What's more concerning to me is where the internet is going. In a few decades I think it will be mainly used for banking, medical an other administrative things, with the social aspect heavily regulated and monitored, and will only be used by businesses. We've lived through a very unique time, and things are bound to change massively, so enjoy it while you can.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Of course they want that. So they can control and see everything that people can do on their devices. With Moore's law there is absolutely no reason why centralizing computers should make sense. This is pure corporate greed and nothing else.

You will own nothing and be happy.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (4 children)

This has been tried, and it sucked and failed every time.

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[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Cloud is just a fancy word for giving up your freedoms. You rely on some greedy corporation and for what? What would the benefit even be?

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[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (6 children)

So wait is the idea that computers would just be like a monitor that connects directly to Amazon

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