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Was a pipe dream to think Carney would stand up to the orange menace.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't really make sense to. The idea of a sending a token force is to act as trip-wire. A trip-wire force is there so if they're attacked, it means war. In that case, those soldiers would be reinforced. They're the tip of the spear.

If Canada sent a trip-wire force in Greenland, those soldiers would not be be expecting reinforcements if attacked by the US. Because Canada is on the border with the US there would be fighting much closer to the aggressor than where the trip-wire forces are. So it would be sending soldiers to Greenland and telling them if attacked by the US they will die with no hope of reinforcement.

You put trip-wires on your outer defenses between you and your enemy. You don't put them far away from the front-lines of a potential conflict. Doing that is just telling soldiers to either die or surrender if attacked.

Remember they're soldiers not some pawns on a chessboard that you sacrifice for a phony political statement. Really what would be the plan to reinforce Canadian soldiers sent to Greenland if they were attacked by US forces?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's called a show of solidarity and the reason Carney won't do it is because he's a squealing little piggy begging to get topped.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Carney literally just hours ago said taking Greenland means war with Canada. 

That’s showing solidarity. I don’t think we’ve ever done that in my generation now my parents generation. 

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Apparently this isn’t what he said, that was fake news

Sorry all

Hmm, what speaks louder, actions or words?

[–] jimd@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

we need a troops here to defend against American Invasion

[–] leastaction@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago
[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Eat shit Carney. At least Trudeau had the guts to publically say that there won't be a snowball's chance in hell of Canada being the 51st state.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As part of NATO’s enhanced Forward Presence in Latvia, Canada has more than 2,000 troops deployed under Operation Reassurance.

Maybe do a bit of research before screaming.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe the guys who wrote the article should.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

This why google/firefox/waterfox etc exist. Go look up facts to support your stance before whining.

[–] rattyrat@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And you're the guy that's volunteering to go out and die for this, I'm presuming.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

You'd be surprised.

[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

I fucking will. My life sucks right now and I'm completely willing to blow my shit up for a cause. I fucking hate Trump and America with all my being. They cross the line, I'm good to go.

[–] AGM@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Carney government had been good on diversifying economically, but not so much on security. Also, Carney backed Trump's plan for Gaza, and essentially backed the actions taken in Venezuela. Carney wrote an article in the economist a couple of months ago that basically said goodbye to universal multilateral institutions, which are the foundation of having international law. I don't know what to expect from Carney on continental security vs NATO violations, but he has certainly not drawn a clear line in the sand against US imperialism.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe Carney is buying time. The economy has to be on good footing first; he has a minority government and needs to keep his support up. Only about 1/3 of Canadians are currently awake to the threat posed by Fascist America, but everyone cares about jobs and prices. A military buildup is underway in Canada but it will take time. As Canada gets stronger and breaks away economically from the USA, the Americans will get weaker. Trump is squandering resources threatening countries on every continent. The US navy doesn't know if it should be in the middle east or the Gulf of Mexico or the North Atlantic. His government is totally incompetent on economic matters - his trade war will ultimately hurt the US worse than the rest of the world. When the AI bubble pops, the US economy is gonna be fucked. I think that Carney doesn't want to interrupt Trump as he is digging his own grave. Still, though, I would like Carney to be unequivocal in his support for Greenland and our remaining allies.

[–] AGM@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

I hope there is a long game being played, but it's not clear to me just yet how he sees Canada-US relations in that long time horizon. Where Carney has been consistent is in his characterization of the old world order being done, a new world order being shaped, and the shape of that new world order not being defined by universal multilateralism but by smaller networks of overlapping and perhaps non-permanent interests, whether that be referred to as variable geometries or patchwork alliances.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What a disgrace for Canada. Once again, my country makes me feel ashamed.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

American here. We're #1 with shame.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I'm watching Minnesota every day. Americans are starting to wake up. There are more people opposed to Trump than supporting him - this will end when the opposition stands together.

[–] Aragaren@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So you would rather Canada send its troops away and leave itself vulnerable to US action?

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

50 troops to show solidarity with non-US NATO members would not leave us defenseless. Presenting a united front would do more to deter the states than actual violence.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 5 days ago

I get it. Y'all need to be ready to defend yourselves from the Orange Jackass.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 1 points 5 days ago
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