Jesus, dude... Their fucking business model is theft and they still can't make a profit...
Lemme go buy some shares right now! π
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I am legitimately surprised that these companies aren't throwing lobbyists out there to eliminate IP laws to account for this. It's almost like many of the companies which rely on IP laws to make profit are also those which have to break them to save money by replacing jobs with AI....
They don't need to. In sarcastic words of Cory Doctorow, it is OK because it's through the app.
Illegal unregulated hotels? It's OK because it's through the app. Illegal taxis? It's OK because it's through the app. Plagiarism and IP violations? It's OK because it's through the app.
They didn't need to. Copyright enforcement was unequal enough that it only applies to regular people. Facebook downloading illegal torrents doesn't count for some reason.
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If theyβre already in the Degradation stage of the Enshitification process theyβre fucked.
Yep.
It would be like if Uber started ripping people off before they even broke the cab union contracts with cities.
They don't have a product people even want yet.
Anecdotal, but pretty much all my friends use ChatGPT. So there is definitely some demand, but I doubt any of them would pay for it. They also all realize more and more that it's a bullshit machine that cannot be trusted.
I have a number of friends and family members who pay for ChatGPT, and I've been shocked to watch their ability to form an original thought shrivel up.
Good point. While I knew that this iteration of "AI" would not revolutionise jobs or creative work, it is so scary how society just accepted that everyone would lose their job and everything else. We could just... Not do that. Or at least do it in a better system.
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A TON of people love ChatGPT. I'm with you, but it's foolish to not acknowledge the reality that it's popular.
Just cause tonnes of folks love ChatGPT doesn't mean that it's viable though, plenty of people love products that were produced by now debunked corporations or developers, just look at Troika games Arcanum and Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines are loved by their communities but the studio has been bunk for about 20 years now. If they can't break even as a minimum they will eventually collapse and be sold for parts.
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Enshitification speedrun
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It was always the first resort. It just needed to reach a certain amount of users to convince advertisers to advertise. Welcome to the first milestone of doom. It only gets worse from here.
Bitch please. This is like the 847th milestone of doom.
Who... even is Sam Altman?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XyI38Vp1PGw
Oh, he's basically a less lucky and somehow less competent version of Mark Zuckerberg.
He doesn't know anything like, theoretical or technical about AI, he has no expertise, he's just a guy with a failed startup or two under his belt, who then become the hypeman for investing schemes/incubators.
He, like many in the tech industry, just... acts like he knows what he is talking about, and... for quite a long time, people believed it.
He's basically a complete fraud, just, as a person, beyond all the literal financial fraud he's orchestrated.
Hyping and pumping companies and stocks is the attribute our economy prizes above all else.
Look at musk, what a genius the investors gush. It does not matter if it is dishonest, if the intrinsic value is way below what is thought. They only care what people think, not what is.
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So... We're nearing the end, then?
Unless ads give enough revenue.
I'm gonna have a good laugh when emails start arriving in my inbox from colleagues and externals with weird ads in the body of the text. Because considering the amount of people that just paste the bot replies in their emails, this will happen, frequently.
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This was inevitable. Anyone who has a basic understanding of how GenAI works knows the only thing they're actually marketable for use for is advertising. Nobody wants to read (or write) an LLM generated book or make a movie with a script written by ChatGPT.
So now it's going to recommend specific brands of rope when it tells me to kill myself?
Now I call that convenience
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"Cut my life into pieces..."
"What a great plan! I'd be happy to help you come up with a plan to cut your life into pieces! π "
Because LLMs don't make money. They are prohibitively expensive to run at scale due to the compute and energy requirements, and model fine-tuning adds yet more cost. RAG systems are even more prohibitive and complex.
The only reason they have been developed to such extent is investor money rolling around in a giant loop. Once this stops, every company hosting LLMs has to raise prices to try and make the unprofitable profitable -- but the compute and energy costs don't change in a significant way (unless it's up).
Ads here are likely an attempt to recoup what is dwindling investor capital. I seriously doubt any of these giant models can be brought to actual profitability.
Eventually, the bottom just falls out.
ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam (please don't let the AI bubble burst) Altman once called them a 'last resort.'
I've noticed this on Gemini too. I didn't want to search through the annoying internet recipe experience these days so I tried Gemini. "Find me an ice cream recipe"
"Sure! Recipe is blah blah..... Also, OXO makes a great container for your ice cream! And there is a great Ice cream scoop also made by OXO!"
Gemini is made by Google/Alphabet, one of the largest advertising company so it's not surprising.
Sam Altman answering the question "Can shit be enshittified?"
Well he wasn't lying.
Ads always come at the end, at the last part of enshittification, so yeah, last resort indeed
Eh, fuck chatgpt, fuck Sam Altman in specific, with an umbrella
Finally the AI innovation we were promised.
Enshitification speed run.
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Who the fuck still uses ChatGPT when there are so many open source alternatives that are much cheaper and sometimes even better overall?
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Not to much longer then.
Well, yeah. They're burning money faster than any ten startups I've ever seen. Of course they're at a last resort.
Scammy Sammy shouldn't be believed in the best of circumstances.
These aren't by any stretch of the imagination the best of the circumstances.
"last resort" here meaning the final resort stay on an extended tour of increasingly more luxurious resorts
I read that as chatgpt is getting aids. Sounds about right, not a bad analogy.
Butlerian Jihad When?
Also, punchable face.
Seems like the end is near if they need to put ads to try to stop the profuse money bleed (that will still continue regardless).
you mean his first and only resort. consider you are one of peter thiels protege as well.
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This was planned from the very beginning.
This was the entire pitch.
"Hey, we have this tool trusted by millions of smooth-brained troglodytes that can be used to control the narrative."
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