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“We’ll be announcing,” Trump added. “They’re already under major investigation. A lot of the people that you would traditionally say are on the left [are] already under investigation.”

And yet again, the assassin is a CIS, White, Mormon, Maga Family Male.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 146 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I've seen too many people take it for granted that the suspect not being a leftist means we're out of the woods. Facts have no bearing on who MAGA will blame. They still act like the attempts on Trump's life are the left's fault too, even after it was confirmed both would-be assassins were on the right.

There's nothing we can do to make facts penetrate the MAGA bubble. All we can do is use the facts to keep more people from getting captured by the MAGA bubble.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

UT Gov Spencer Cox talking about how he was "radicalized by Reddit and dark dark places on the internet" and then concluding that he's a "leftist."

lol no.

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

Meanwhile, Reddit: How many subs can we ban for not moderating for Kirk hard enough?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Spez: No no guys I'm one of the good ones, remember? We made a little safe space for The_Donald for a while and we just got rid of a bunch of Charlie Kirk stuff, we're doing what you wanted

Spez: No no seriously guys I'm one of you, I'm on your side

Spez: Jesus Christ stop it that hurts, stop it, you can't, you can't

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's what we have on r/conservative and my local community forums right now.

They don't let facts get in the way of the outrage.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If facts and critical thinking stopped fascism world war 1 would still be called "the last great war" instead...

Hell, even if just appeasing fascists worked, there wouldn't have been a world war 2.

But the only way to stop fascism is violence. In a good government, the government does it.

In a fascist government...

It's usually another country's military who steps it. And that's a worse result for everyone involved.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Goebbels had a phrase for this strategy

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Can confirm. My MAGA relative did not get the memo that the shooter was on the right. Just like they didn't get the memo about all the other shooters in the past year and some change. They were and are all radical left lunatics. That's what Fox News and Facebook is spoon-feeding them.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep, they say it's the let's fault because everyone is calling them Nazis and facists. Well....if it quacks, it's a duck.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago

They have always wanted everyone who disagrees with them dead. This is just one of many excuses they may use for it. We're not out of the woods until/unless they're out of power.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

People should have figured out it's a psychological civil war years ago.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 105 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The only crime "the left" is guilty of is failure to prosecute "the right" for their crimes when they had the chance

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Probe what? Who is “the left”?

“Make shit up about people I don’t like” is the real answer.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's in Project 25. This would have happened even without Kirk's murder, they are only using it as an excuse.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

this is exactly why I am not really concerned about his murder

he was a shit person, the world is better off without him

the method of his death shouldn't have happened - he should have died crossing the street, like the rest of us, or something

his murder is being used by the fascists, but only because it is convenient - if not that, it would have been something else

the one upside to this is that the Nazis and dumb fucks are showing themselves on my Facebook and LinkedIn with posts of support for him

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[–] PigsInClover@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is “The Left” in the room with us?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. Mormons are far left extremist apparently.

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[–] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is gonna be like when we went to war with Iraq because of 9/11, isn’t it

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Mormons have yellow cake? The should send the military to Mormon headquarters then.

But in all seriousness, yeah, it's going to be like that I think.

[–] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I’ve only known a few mormons and they always had cake

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Sugar is christian meth

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, it's the vice they can indulge in since no caffeine and alcohol so it's over indulge in sugar.

It's why Crumbl Cookie are way too sweet, it's a Mormon founded company.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yellow jello is more likely

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Make no mistake, a civil war is coming, trump is building his own private army (ICE) and now he's getting his intelligence services ramped up. this can't be good.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 weeks ago

There are masked armed thugs in the streets disappearing people with no legal basis. The war already started a while ago.

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

investigate the left

Because this guy was so far to the right. Makes sense. 🥴

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

So Left it's Right, So Right it's Left.

Pop Tart Logic.

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[–] ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 weeks ago

WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

“If you look at the problem, the problem is on the left. It’s not on the right,”

ORLY?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk

"Robinson's grandmother said the entire family are Republicans and Trump supporters.[86] Robinson was registered to vote but not affiliated with any party, and there is no record of him voting in Washington County (of which St. George is the county seat).[1] Robinson had no criminal record prior to his arrest.[87]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators

"Federal charging documents described Boelter as acting with "the intent to kill, injure, harass, and intimidate Minnesota legislators".[6] His anti-abortion views are considered a possible motive.[50] Boelter was registered to vote in Oklahoma as a Republican for the 2004 United States presidential election, though on a state document in 2019, Boelter wrote that he had "no party preference".[8] A longtime Sleepy Eye, Minnesota, resident who knew Boelter as a fourth-grade student in his childhood town since 1976, told reporters he was stunned to learn that Boelter is a suspect in the attacks. He described Boelter as "a conservative who voted for President Donald Trump and was strongly against abortion rights""

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Florida

"Routh had a history of political activity online and offline, with his political engagement dating back to at least 1989.[34] Voting records showed that he did not vote in the 2016 elections,[35] but in a 2020 Twitter post, he claimed to have voted for Trump in 2016 and later regretted it.[36] In a self-published ebook in 2023, he wrote about his supposed previous support for Trump, saying, "I am man enough to say that I misjudged and made a terrible mistake."[37]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Pennsylvania

"FBI deputy director Paul Abbate described Crooks's activity on social networking services as antisemitic, anti-immigrant, extreme, and espousing political violence.[138] Crooks's Internet activity before the attack included searches related to the 2021 Oxford High School shooting and for other politicians and their events.[139]

He was a registered Republican;[129][140][141] his voter registration had been active since September 2021, the month he turned 18.[142][129]"

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

How dare you! Why are you interrupting this time of national mourning with inconvenient facts?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Saw a few lowered flags when doing things this weekend, holy fuck does that annoy the shit out of me.

These shitbags could not even keep the flag lowered for Carter, FFS. A mother-fucking President, and one that was a 1000x better than this piece of shit in the WH.

And they have it lowered for a fucking podcaster? What are we even doing here? Most people didn't even know who the fuck Kirk was until this shooting. It was mostly the political wonks and the terminally online that even knew who he was....

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Like a lot of people are saying about all this stupidity

EPSTEIN FILES

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 11 points 2 weeks ago

I've been wondering about those EPSTEIN FILES, as well. Where are they, whose on them?

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago

Trump is a child rapist

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago

He hasn’t said a damn thing about Nick Fuentes

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, this reminds me of being a kid and my dipshit aunt telling me the cops would come looking for me if I didn't eat my dinner.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

More rambling from the pedophile. He is blowing hot air, cause anytime MAGA goes to court and has to prove their claims, they lose immediately during discovery. Unless it's with a media corporation, they just bend over and do whatever their king tells them.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Hitler threatens major probe of "the Jews"...

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Pretty much everything on Twitter is saying he was a leftist. Propaganda at its finest.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

By Friday hes gonna be like “Charlie who?”

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Nah, it's going to be "Donate to keep Charlie's WS mission alive!" for the next few years.

Grifters gotta keep grifting.

I do imagine his wife will be moving on soon though.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Oh look, an excuse to arrest his political enemies

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

What the FUCK is this story

Public records show that the suspect is unaffiliated with any party, while both his parents are registered Republicans.

Authorities also said that ammunition from a bolt-action rifle recovered after the shooting included inscriptions such as, “notice bulges OWO what’s this?” “Hey fascist! Catch!” and “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.” Another casing bore the phrase “Bella ciao,” in an apparent reference to the popular Italian anti-fascist anthem.

On Sunday, however, Cox told NBC’s Meet the Press that the suspect’s political ideology was “very different” from his family’s.

“There clearly was a leftist ideology with this assassin,” he said, citing information from Robinson’s family and romantic partner.

Cox later told CNN’s State of the Union that Robinson lived with his transgender partner, though investigators were still trying to determine whether their romantic relationship was a motive behind the shooting.

The 22-year-old suspect was also steeped in “dark” corners of the internet, Cox said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZP-oCx3Dk

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