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[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This would all go through the administration and definitely not tolerated outside a behavioral challenges classroom at my kids school.

IMO the only real reason is 80k after 20 years . And I live in an affluent neighborhood in a decently funded state.

[–] nonmemeaccount@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Y best friend growing up is at 20 years and barely @ 50.

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

So that students end up writing better than you. 80k isn't an absurd salary in most cost of living areas with lots of families. I'm sure there are locations where that might be considered high, but honestly I couldn't give two fucks about any argument why teachers of 20 years should be paid well.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Depends where you are blue states tend to pay their teachers better. Still have a lot of the same parental and administrative issues but at least they generally dont have to work a second job for ends to meet.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

isn't there vicarious liability for parents of their kids when the runts exhibit continuous violent behavior?

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Coming up on three generations now who are afraid of conflict.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like I'm entering my old man phase, but it feels like we're teaching kids to do everything they can to evade accountability as a rule.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well yeah, accountability only gets you in trouble. There's no incentive for taking accountability.

There's no "at least you were honest." Even if someone unintentionally makes a genuine mistake, they'll burn for it if it's ever pinned to them. Just fade into the background and don't attract notice to yourself, cause as soon as you accept blame for one thing, people will use you as a scapegoat for everything else that goes wrong.

Don't practice self-awareness, it'll only get you punished. Don't feel remorse for your actions, it'll only get you punished. That's the prevailing and all-pervading messaging these days. Do you want to be the sorry sucker to try to reverse that trend?

The authorities never accept accountability, they just pass the buck to their subordinates. Everyone seems to follow that example, and the buck gets passed down until it can't go any lower and the person at the bottom gets stuck with the hot potato.

This behavior is continuously reinforced by society. Anyone who expects it to be otherwise learns their lesson real quick. Never admit to being anything less than perfect, or else the consequences may follow you for the rest of your life.

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 7 points 14 hours ago

I used to be a buyer for a manufacturing facility. We'd joke that if something went wrong in production, they would blame the scheduler, the scheduler would blame the buyer, the buyer would blame the supplier, and the supplier would blame our quality team.

As long as you're not the last on the list, your job is secure.

(Our QA dept had incredibly high turnover.)

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

I don't think this is evading responsibility. I think this is a family who can't afford mental health care for their child, and the school system is ill-equipped to handle it.

[–] PagPag@lemmy.world -3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I don’t think there’s much studying involved to become a teacher, unless you’re special. The coursework, at a base level, is things that are covered in nearly every course you took to get there.

That being said, the real hard component is essentially parenting kids whose parents have left the job up to the public school system. Teaching is a hard job, but getting there is not.

Also this

[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I know like 3 people IRL that are expecting rn in this hell hole situation and I cannot for the life of me figure out how they can be so f'ng stupid. I ain't even bothering with a "congrats" when I see these ppl.

Now of all times is the most irresponsible thing you can be stuck with. Blessing my ass.

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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (5 children)

I was spanked as a kid. I don't think it did any good. I don't want to spank my kids.

I must say, this does make me reconsider my opinions.

/s

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