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But this not what ice is. They aren’t law enforcement. That’s the problem, too.

They are immigration and customs enforcement officers.

And… we should be whittling their budget

Doesn't matter they will get labeled something else. ICE is terrorizing MN law enforcement and the right doesn't care. Insurrectionists terrorizing law enforcement on Jan 6, the right didn't care. ICE is not a classic law enforcement agency anyway. These people are idiots and likely just making shit up.

I'd much rather be known as anti-law enforcement than pro-nazi.

I'd be proud to be labeled "anti-law enforcement".

Surely Steven Miller will magically change his mind and the human rights violations will stop. Uh huh.

Hey now, I'm a big fan of pussies. Democrats, not so much.

We want it to go away too, but funding the actual law breakers isn't how you do it

Exactly. Democratic policies work (most of the sometimes)... it's just democrats have no fucking backbone, no balls to demand things to get their policies enacted like republicans do. Republican policies fail miserably and royally fuck everything up. Grow a fucking pair, dems... be the change you want to see in the world.

Democracy is out of my price range at the moment. I can't afford the salary of a lobbyists.

The Blue Dogs (the group that voted for ice funding) is the same group of dems that thwarted Bill Clinton.

It's all kayfabe, it's the squared circle. Whenever actual change is on the menu, like the public option with Obama care, exactly enough dems will turn to make it not happen, reliably.

How many is the super majority? Add 2 and that's how many dems will show up to stop progress.

It’s because both parties are owned by the same Israeli lobby and the Zionist tech bro oligarchs. It’s not even a conspiracy it’s easily verifiable. Epstein and Gizzline worked for Israel to collect blackmail for Israel. We pay for Israeli’s to have universal healthcare, free college and a $400 monthly payment per child until they turn 18 but those things are evil and “communist” here. We the American taxpayers pay hundreds of billions for this stuff while Americans die and go into debt for sickness. Israel is a hostile foreign power do friends blackmail their allies? https://www.trackaipac.com/congress https://wonderisrael.com/monthly-stipend-for-a-jewish-kid/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel

You guys ever notice how it’s always the democrats that break rank but never the republicans?

Massie's been in full revolt for months now. And we've had perennial haters in the GOP going back to John McCain and Ron Paul. And the Tea Party Caucus was a big reason why the GOP couldn't pick a new House Speaker for nearly a month. These opponents tend to be Libertarian flavored, and tend to undermine Neocon efforts to spend money at the risk of raising taxes

The loathsome Blue Dog Caucus are an organized conservative opposition within the liberal party. It consistently sabotages party priorities while funneling enormous sums of corporate money into leadership races.

Both exist to benefit corporate interests.

They must be stupid or something.

They are.

That was a lot of Kamalas campaign. look at our immigration policies, it's just the republican plans or we want to fund the military even more than the Republicans

The slaughter of everyday Americans has never been a weighty burden to the American government.

It won't work so long as you have first-past-the-post voting.

Bullshit. The Republicans are the fascists in power. Being angry at them is the default, nothing to say. The Democrats can be either resisting or enabling. People have every fucking right to be mad at the enablers who should be resisting.

Your comment is the equivalent of saying "yea the crime in my city is caused by criminals and corrupt cops, but it's mostly the criminals, so look why are you eating up the propaganda that you should be mad at the police?".

As non-maga American voters you guys need to be holding your enabler Democrats to account. We, the rest of the world, know the Republicans are beyond your control. Your fucking Democrats though? That's on you.

Edit, here: https://youtu.be/1PwmiG7ABl0

Dems have approved record funding for ICE every single year for the past 25 years. Dems can stop this anytime they want.

Trump straight pardoned Henry Cueller, the ringleader. He was caught dead to rights taking bribes from foreign officials and has functionally flipped teams in exchange for clemency.

Incidentally, Jefferies reinstated Cueller as senior Dem on the Appropriations Committee. He'll be the chairman if Dems retake the House this year.