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It is delicious though

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[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Unless the food is for sick people in that case regular English food is perfectly bland for them.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 16 points 1 week ago

well someone needs to stir the risotto

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago

As am Englishman, I am offended. The idea that I am not capable of preparing Italian food as well as a native, or that I would ever cook English cuisine in my kitchen, is outright racism.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Carbonara is delicious and its definitely not a recent invention

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm Italian, and trust me: carbonara is not more than 70 years old...

Same thing for tiramisù.

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The original inventors of Tiramisu are still alive today.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hate to break it to you but Norma Pielli died in 2015.

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

That makes me sad.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Carbonara was invented after WWII to use surplus bacon sent as food aid from the US and primarily served to American servicemen during reconstruction.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's not even made with bacon, so no

[–] flanzu@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There is an Italian historian (Alberto Grandi) that actually agrees with the POV that carbonara was invented for the american occupation and there are no source citing the recipie until the 1950s.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 4 points 1 week ago

According to Wikipedia, with various sources, allied forces in Italy would often ask for bacon, eggs, and cheese on noodles, called "spaghetti breakfast," so Italian chefs would modify the existing recipe for "pasta cacio e uova," which was originally without meat, to feature cured pork, thus creating the original carbonara.

I didn't see anything to specifically say whether they originally used bacon as the allied forces asked, or used other more traditional forms of cured pork from the start, but now guanciale, a cured pork jowl, is considered the traditional ingredient, though bacon is a common substitute outside of Italy.

Sorry that history doesn't fit into your world view.

[–] whiskers165@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Italian cuisine is only good when your only frame of reference is other European foods. It's like talking about the best thing on the menu at McDonald's

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Granted curry of any kind is miles ahead of most european foods I have tried but Italian can be quite comforting as well. Pasta has a special place in my heart.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I had this one Singaporean guy visit me and say basically the same thing, and then he said there was this dish i had to try. And it just tasted like Umami The Dish™ to me.

Turns out, people typically enjoy the cuisine they grew up with and that's not wrong. To imply that it is makes you annoying.

[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

The point of Italian food is not that it is the best in the world. What is nice about it is that there is a lot of variety, it can be quite healthy and most Italian people take pride in it and can cook relatively well.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

This is the sort of discrimination I can support. Call the husband when you want some tea.

[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Weaponized incompetence much?

[–] taygaloocat@leminal.space -1 points 1 week ago

Does every single thing need to be an argument in your world?

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe but the English havnt yet invented it at all

[–] fakasad68@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

*DISCOVERED it all

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My wife can bake (more or less), but cannot cook much else to save her life. She'll default to crackers, cheese and turkey slices for every meal, maaaaybe the occasional frozen pizza, if I don't cook. Also I'm a really good cook and I like my food, so... I'mma do the cooking.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Perfectly reasonable. English food is disgusting.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Centuries of cultures and nations mixing and colliding resulted in pasta. Pasta is more international than Italian.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For her, I would bring home a deep fried haggis and a Cornish pasty. Embrace our culture!

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Haggis isnt english. Its scottish

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Both are British though

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Well, English recipes are not really the best, it's more fair to say that an US citizen of any gender don't should be in the kitchen, after seeing them adding ketchup to Spaguetti Carbonara

[–] pir8t0x@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 week ago

I think this is the wrong place to post this. You're supposed to post this on microblogmemes@lemmy.world