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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 59 minutes ago

Charlie Kirk didn't go to college.

No but he did die at a University.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Fucking hell this woman, a month ago she was saying he was a traitor and now he is a public hero? Every single day she lowers her humanity bar more to new depths I didn't know was possible. I am pretty convinced she is just trying to increase her visibility via rage baits.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 2 points 4 hours ago

Defund American universities? If tuition goes toward funding universities, does that mean.... naaaah that's socialism!

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And look where that got him..

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Lol I was about to say "do you want to be like Charlie Kirk?"

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, no one educated should be on Twitter.

Seriously. Do people not understand 'don't feed the trolls'?

[–] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"Don't feed the trolls" sounds great in theory, and for your own personal sanity it makes sense. Unfortunately ignoring people like this doesn't make them go away though. Instead, the lack of any pushback to their vitriol and lies just pulls in even more people and makes their message stronger.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You can push back.

Just not on their turf.

If you were in Nazi Germany, would you push back in a forum personally set up by Hilter to make you look like provocateur then cut you off? No. That would be stupid, and even worse, validates the platform with your presence.

You go somewhere else. And bring people with you.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I think George Takei gets a pass. He's there as a warrior, buddy. (edit ok but not alex cole who is that guy lol, and I forgot that's George's bluesky account. I'll just shut up now. slinks away)

i'm gonna be honest, i give takei a pass because he's takei. we've all gotten to know him parasocially over the years. i can think of a hundred excuses for him, but honestly he just seems like a righteous dude. he doesn't need an excuse for where he chooses to online, as long as it's not stormfront or krasnovsocial he's cool.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Do people not understand ‘don’t feed the trolls’?

No, and broadly we have to stop expecting better of people. It's in our instincts to latch onto narratives, either for or against them.

Instead our task as the better people should have always been to create better narratives, and since this generation of social media warriors all learned how to craft narratives from like, freeform erotic isekai K-pop furry fanfiction roleplay in private discord channels, I am not holding my breath that we're going to take the stage anytime soon.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

create better narratives

THIS is the fallacy!

Twitter is not a fair forum, it's an engagement -> profit engine. It does not show posts fairly. The entire premise of it being a tug of war between narratives like some free speech dream is a fat lie.

Even if 'this generation' were Mensa narrative makers, that'd feed the troll engine all the better, like how I've seen people say they stay on Reddit to 'fight back.' The only game to play is to the bottom. The only way out is not to play.

I dunno how to communicate that en masse, but we did it with cigarettes, so it's not impossible.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The only way out is not to play.

For yourself, yes. If you have realized all of what you said and want a better outcome for yourself, absolutely stop playing, you will have a better life.

But the vast majority of people are not stopping. The vast majority of people are falling deeper down the slippery sides of the pitcher-plant because this is what we are as a species, we are narrative-seekers, that is my point, we cannot escape.

Even if you shut it all off and live your best life, the decisions that some asshole in power makes will still impact you at some point, because he read something someone posted once and it changed the way he looks at the story. We don't get out. We can buy time, but there is no real escape. I'm sorry.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I think Twitter is more fragile than you think.

It doesn't have THAT many participants; statistically, normal people don't really use it. It's not that far from losing the public eye and being a self-indulgent (but not publicly influential) zoo kind of like 4chan is.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

When I refer to the internet narrative-scape, I include everything. Facebook, Reddit, turthscoial or whatever the right-wing ones are, all the way back here to Lemmy. These are the places where the people growing up to make tomorrow's decisions have their attitudes and beliefs shaped and reshaped.

I mean, the ones who grow up at least. That seems to be falling out of style.

That seems to be falling out of style.

thank you for seeing me

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I think some are less explicitly optimized for political rage-bait though. Facebook is pretty bad, but things like say, Discord or Telegram (popular destinations) are awful in different ways.

Truth Social will always be niche. I know it's very 'year of linux' but I'm convinced Reddit is near its immolation stage. Lemmy and federated social media won't be 'influential' for a long time, they're in for the long run.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 41 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Didn't he get shot in college?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

He lived by the college campus and died by the college campus.

Right wing grifters have seen great success directly targeting young people, from Ben Shapeepo and Jordan Peterson doing this along side Kirk for years through to people like Steve Bannon targeting WoW players, and the efforts recruiting from 4chan, and this is just what we know about.

They are groomers and indoctrination agents, they are everything we need to fight in society, so let's not let the current uproar and narrative crafting stop us from protesting and pushing back on these full-grown-ass men with millions of dollars "just hanging out" in our school campuses.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

Wasn't he also against free lunches?
Apparently the last one cost his life, which is far from free.

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[–] ceph@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

Laura Loomer is certifiably insane.

[–] darcranium123@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Laura looney

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 106 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Charlie's only shot ar college was to debate new adults with a decade worth of adulthood less than he. He debated with a 10 handicap.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 78 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Charlie's only shot at college

Recent circumstances suggest he got one additional shot.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

Optional offense but I am not trying to end up like him...

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