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[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Even if the government gives us $20,000 to buy health insurance, premiums will likely increase by $20,000.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Now now, why would you only increase it by the amount the government will give you, you clearly dont have what it takes to be a CEO. If everyone would get 20k. Increase the price to 25k

Bingo. Socializing profits or whatever this is called…”neoliberalism” “private public partnerships” is exactly what destroyed everything good about western society.

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 214 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The health insurance plans will just raise their prices by another $2000

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't expect anything else from a Trump Policy - everything he does is to feather the nests of his wealthy supporters. I guarantee this trump-care policy was suggested and supported by health insurers.

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[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is just a roundabout way of subsidizing the health insurance industry while making his base think he actually did something for them.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago

No that's the ACA. This is just peanuts.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Every subsidy that goes to a person basically is a roundabout way to fund an industry. Even tax write offs are. Like a mortgage interest rate deduction just helps banks and the real estate industry, not the people buying a house. The write off pushes housing prices up, since the banks can give out slightly higher mortgages to borrowers and the market adjusts to the bigger inflow of cash and supply doesn’t increase faster. If the write off didn’t exist people could borrow less but houses would cost less as well. This basically happened in my country the Netherlands. Nobody benefited from the introduction of the mortgage interest deduction except the banks and people who already owned a home when the policy was introduced.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 18 points 2 days ago

My dudes, we have nothing to lose but our chains

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How can there still RELATIVELY many people be able to have kids financially? The fertility rate in most european countries in comparison is lower, although we have affordable healthcare (well, compared to the US at least).

[–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why do you think they're trying to shut down reproductive rights? They want people to have kids despite financial capability to raise them. As long as they survive growing up, they'll labor.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And be raised by parents who don't have any financial independence, ensuring they're also in debt slavery for the rest of their lives.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Things feel so dystopian that I get the feeling that after they get everyone on debt slavery that they'll put propaganda about how it's unfair that debt is absolved on death and that your family/kids should pay for it. Fox News will be like: "why should a company's debts just disappear? it's unfair to the lender!"

[–] rezifon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hey, someone is going to have to do all those below-subsistence jobs that the deported immigrants have been doing.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

In an ideal world that's what robots/AI would do. But we get the opposite; artists become unemployed whereas manual labor still continues to exist for humans.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 78 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Adding $660,000,000,000 to the federal deficit annually and still not making a dent in people's healthcare costs?

A single-payer universal healthcare system would be cheaper, as almost every other country's systems show.

The real trick is to get private equity and for-profit corporations out of healthcare. All they do is drive up costs while lowering outcomes.

Healthcare should be a public service, funded by the government.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 25 points 3 days ago

Yeah, the US actually pays more PUBLIC funds per person than most other nations. Then the private cost on top - all for worse health outcomes.

We need more Luigis just from a financial perspective.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Brilliant!

Remember when they unveiled "the plan" many years ago? Huge stacks of paper, it looked very comprehensive indeed.

Of course, all the pages were blank. IT WAS TOP SECRET, YOU SEE, INVISIBLE INK!

Now, I'm wondering what was on the other 20K pages after the "$2000 credit a year" page. That was invisible. Eight years ago? Ten? I hate it here

ETA $2000 will be worth $20 by 2027. We should print more money to fix that!

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 90 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's one healthcare, Michael. What could it cost? $2000?

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 84 points 3 days ago (11 children)
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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 90 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Health insurance premiums are going to cost $28000 from now on.

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[–] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Oh wow! In switzerland there is immense political pressure beause health insurance is very expensive.

I pay 6300 per year.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Why does the health insurance industry even exist?

That's a question Americans are prevented from having because it would offend Ayn Rand or something.

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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 80 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Trump is a gold spoon fed moron who's entirely disconnected from reality. That mofo talked about groceries like it's an afternoon club or some shit. He probably never ever even stepped into a supermarket and bought a fucking loaf of bread and something else himself. It's why he fucking has no idea how healthcare even works in America, when he had COVID they just pumped shit into him to keep his zombie body alive and he didn't even twitch even the slightest for how much that would cost. Meanwhile rest of people avoid calling an ambulance because that will cost so much it can bankrupt them. Tell me how that isn't absolutely fucked.

I live in Slovenia (Europe) and while our healthcare system isn't perfect either, not once I worried that my medical condition would set me back financially for 5 or 10 years. It just doesn't cross our minds, like at all ever. You just get in touch with doctors and they sort it out based on severity. If it's something non critical you might wait few weeks or months if it's something trivial or cosmetic, but if it's something urgent they'll send you to ER immediately and do most complex procedures asap. So it's not just "you need to wait for months because it's "free" healthcare". It is prioritized and it's perfectly understandable and logical.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The entire argument about universal healthcare taking months to see a doctor is doubly trash because it took me that long to see a doctor in the US anyways. I had to plan my general practitioner visits out 3-4 months in advance and I was on meds that needed represcribed every three months so some months I simply missed it because how long the waits were

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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn't that basically universal basic income?

[–] Soulg@ani.social 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If he does it the proper way yes, but it'll probably be something stupid and strictly controlled to be only insurance

Also ignoring the fact that even if it was $2000 annually no strings attached that still does little, though it would certainly be welcome

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

Health insurance would magically become $2k more expensive overnight, so

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago

Trump used to support a Canadian-style, single-payer health care plan. However, the closer he got to the presidency, the more he backed away from that. Funny how that works.

[–] dancroissant@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Typical NYC slumlord style: "Free first months rent."

I looked at an apartment once which was the upstairs of a house. Dogs had eaten large chunks out of the bedroom doors and there were two giant piles of dog shit left in the kitchen. The owner was enormous and unable to climb stairs so she hadn't seen the state of the place after the previous tenants had moved out. After I told her what the situation was, she said if I cleaned it up myself she would knock off $200 ... from the security deposit. Get fucked.

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[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 15 points 3 days ago

I mean, it takes minimum 150k per year to raise a family in the US, so that tracks.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (8 children)

holy shit is it really 26000?? that's more than what i pay in tax every year in europe. (granted i am poor but)

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

the US already spends more public funds in healthcare per capita than every country with free healthcare.

on top of that, we pay a shit ton extra for insurance, then a shit ton more in copays/deductibles, plus a shit ton more because something isn't included....

you could lower taxes by thousands and give everyone free healthcare.

the US healthcare is nothing but a massive scam. the kind where the perpetators kill tens of thousands per year and rake in endless money. there's no justification besides rich people like being rich, even if it means killing thousands of innocents. in any civilized world those executives should be tortured to death.

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[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Wait... when the government gives people money... that sounds like... SOCIALISM.

This is to point out his hypocrisy, not even to note that this is a stupid way of distributing money (it just goes into the hands of middle men) and only intends to generate some good sounding news instead of actually solving a problem

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

In other news most countries only pay 3 to 5% of their income for universal healthcare but sure we’ll see how Pedo Care works out for Americans

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[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

He just wants another excuse to send individuals checks with his name on it. Could be a good opportunity to virtue signal as well if the plan winds up being exclusionary toward singles or other groups.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Republican healthcare plan can be sum up as "get fucked and die you dirty peasant".

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just more money being pumped straight into the pockets of the insurance company shareholders.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

10% off, typically corporate garbage. Whenever you see something with like $100 off you can usually just times it by ten to figure out the real cost.

$2,000 off x 10 = $20,000 which is surprisingly close to the actual cost.

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"We'll do socialism, but we'll do it just a little bit, not enough to matter to any single human being's actual needs, but at least we broke our ultraconservative ideals for no good reason I guess?"

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Is he really just replacing like 6k+ valued ACA subsidies with 2k in subsidies that are implemented more stupidly

This plus the 50 year mortgages and I'm starting to feel relieved I'll probably die before the real aftermath of this shit hits.

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