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[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The thing I think is that Iran is indeed an authoritarian theocratic regime and killed 3000 people confirmed by themselves, but so is Israel. The problem is the ipocricy in the judgement of a nation that should before look at it self and get that it's not better than others. But we all know this

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Most of those were civilians and security forces (2427 out of 3117). The other numbers floating around seem completely made up by NGOs and western media so it's hard to know if there are more dead rioters.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

How many western regime change operations that inevitably create magnitudes more casualties is too many? Because that's the "solution" that's being talked about, not some actual people's government

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

I'm not sure I understand the question, if you mean whether I trust any numbers the answer is no, but the government numbers are a good minimum estimate.

If the question is whether I support the Iranian government uncritically, the answer is also no, but based on past history it's still an extremely stupid idea to support an intervention.

I believe Iranians deserve a break from the illegal sanctions that keep them struggling, once they can breathe they'll decide in their own terms if they wanna reform or overthrow their government or whatever else.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

Palestine also.

[–] thlibos@thelemmy.club 0 points 5 hours ago
[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 38 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

/s Yes they lied about Iraq but Iran is an authoritarian state that should be toppled. Two things can be true at once you know.
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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 21 points 15 hours ago

So many "fell for it again" awards need to be handed out these past few years.

[–] Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

What happens after it is toppled?

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

That's the problem

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 14 hours ago

Freedom arrives in the form of an US-backed monarchy. Oh wait.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Democracy ofc then ISIS but one thing at a time

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

you know, installing some al-qaeda dissident on power but he's totally fine now since he uses a suit.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 33 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Typical imperial core chauvinism. They know their governments are evil but still cling hard to the idea that they're the best therefore every non western aligned country must be even more evil.

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 23 points 13 hours ago

"If my country is evil while calling itself the leader of the free world, other countries must be super evil"

[–] Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml 11 points 21 hours ago

can you post the latest Time Magazine cover and point out its pushing war propaganda again ? thank you

I read this to the tune of Yakko's World

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Iranian state tv gave an official death toll of 3117. from aljazeera, famously pro US outlet.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 24 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Correct, there have been thousands of deaths, not the fantastical numbers in the 10s of thousands reported by Hasbara accounts and western media, and not the result of the IRGC one-sidedly slaughtering people en masse but intense riots and turmoil. Exaggerating tragedies and changing the nature of real events is exactly how western atrocity propaganda functions.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

that’s still pretty damn far from the 30'000 that’s floating around in western media