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cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/46886810

The American president has invited Canada to become his country's "51st state," an idea that has infuriated most of Canada's 40 million citizens.

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Hence this suggestion: Why not expand the EU to include Canada? Is that so far-fetched an idea? In any case, Canadians have actually considered the question themselves. In February 2025, a survey conducted by Abacus Data on a sample of 1,500 people found that 44% of those polled supported the idea, compared to 34% who opposed it. Better the 28th EU country than the 51st US state!

One might object: Canada is not European, as required for EU membership by Article 49 of the EU Treaty. But what does "European" actually mean? The word cannot be understood in a strictly geographic sense, or Cyprus, closer to Asia, would not be part of the EU. So the term must be understood in a cultural sense.

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As [Canadian Prime Minister Mark] Carney said in Paris, in March: Thanks to its French and British roots, Canada is "the most European of non-European countries." He speaks from experience, having served as governor of the Bank of England (a post that is assigned based on merit, not nationality). Culturally and ideologically, Canada is close to European democracies: It shares the same belief in the welfare state, the same commitment to multilateralism and the same rejection of the death penalty or uncontrolled firearms.

Moreover, Canada is a Commonwealth monarchy that shares a king with the United Kingdom.

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Even short of a formal application, it would be wiser for Ottawa to strengthen its ties with European democracies rather than with the Chinese regime. The temptation is there: Just before heading to Davos, Carney signed an agreement with Beijing to lower tariffs on electric vehicles imported from China.

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[–] leastaction@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

Canada is an independent country, thank you.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think Canada joining the EU is really realistic. It's not about geography, it's mostly regulation.

For example, all EU countries meet the "European standard EN 50075:1990", which is about electrical plugs. Every device in Europe is compatible with that plug, and every plug meets that standard. Even Switzerland which isn't part of the EU meets the 2-prong standard. Canada uses the NEMA 1-15 and NEMA 5-15 standards instead. And it isn't just the plugs. North America uses 120 V at 60Hz, Europe uses 230 V at 50 Hz. I really can't see a way for Canada to switch to the EU standard without a massive cost and/or a very long implementation period. And what does it gain? I much prefer europlugs and 230V appliances. My electric kettle boiled a whole lot faster in the EU, and things were retained in the socket much better than the dumb blade connectors Canada uses. But, I wouldn't want to have to pay an extra $2000 in taxes (x 40 million or whatever) just to switch to this slightly better standard.

That's just the start of it. There are different standards for roads, vehicles, health and safety, basically every aspect of life. Canada could switch to some at great expense, like changing all road signs. But, AFAIK being truly part of the EU would mean switching to all EU standards, unless special exemptions were made.

IMO, what would make more sense is just closer integration: free movement of people, free movement of goods, maybe closer collaboration on research, health and safety, etc.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Whole countries have switched whoch side they drive on over a single night, and they needed to make sure signs and shit were adjusted. Yes, there would need to be a change, but you can either make excuses or you can make progress.

Right now, you’re making excuses.

[–] Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

There are several standards for plugs. Types C, E, F, and G. Only the slim ungrounded plugs will fit in type C, E, and F sockets. Grounded type F plugs will be ungrounded in C or E sockets, and grounded type E plugs don't fit in anything but a type E sockets. If the type C or E are the full round plug, neither will fit in a type F socket even if it is ungrounded (I know this because I had to trim excess plastic from a type C plug to use it in a type F socket. Type G is used by Ireland Malta and Cyprus and is entirely incomparable with the other types. Type G also makes an excellent caltrop and will fuck up your foot in a profound way if you step on it. Then the Italians swiss and Danes all have their own style of plug. Most of the countries have a mixture of type C and whatever earthed version that country prefers.

The above picture is a typical situation in Norway. The left most type C plug only fits in the type F socket because I butchered it. And the earthed type F plug is only earthed in a type F socket. Many older buildings only have type C sockets in most rooms (the kitchen and bathroom are always upgraded to type F and there's usually a cluster of type F sockets in the living room on the same wall as the TV).

As for the voltage requirements that's only a thing because the entirety of Europe is connected in one large grid. Obviously Canada wouldn't be.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

As for the voltage requirements that's only a thing because the entirety of Europe is connected in one large grid. Obviously Canada wouldn't be.

If you changed the plugs without changing the voltage / frequency, then every device sold would have to be compatible with both standards. For certain devices that would be difficult or costly.

You get adapters for that. Also Japan uses both systems in the same country. Everything from Osaka to the west is 60Hz and everything from Tokyo to the east is 50hz. They cope (they both use 100V).

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

Canada and the EU can agree to a gradual transition, with support and planning - EU supplying the necessary devices for replacing current ones, modest discounts for trading old vehicles for new, focusing on replacing small township infrastructure before doing the bigger cities, and so forth.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 3 hours ago

The snow is making that hand look like a pigeon roost.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Meanwhile USA east and west coast are looking into joining Canada (and EU?) while Trump is looking into convincing Canada's oil producing provinces to join becoming states.

People wanted change. They're going to get it. Not the one they voted for probably.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Any US state that wanted to join Canada would have to reckon with the "guns" thing. Even states that align with Canada in most ways still have a lot of gun nuts, even left-leaning gun nuts. Meanwhile, Canada has slowly been tightening already fairly restrictive gun laws. One glance across the border makes Canadians convinced that guns just escalate problems, they don't solve them.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Meanwhile, Canada has slowly been tightening already fairly restrictive gun laws.

Tightening them for no good reason, the whole kick-off for the “buyback” program was the 2020 Nova Scotia mass shooting which wasn’t caused by someone who had a possession and acquisition license or had legally obtained their firearms.

It’s been 6 years on now and firearms owners are on the edge of their seats because the government intends to criminalize hundreds of thousands of people by the end of October.

Everyone knows licensed firearm owners are not to blame for what happened in 2020 hence the major pushback from provinces, police organizations and firearm owners.

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[–] Toto@lemmy.world 65 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They aren’t comparable. One is the prospect of a forced marriage, the other is being asked to join a semi functional study group.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 30 points 7 hours ago

Forced marriage to a violent, abusive bully, vs study group with a disorganized slightly autistic nerd who's really smart. I don't want to spoil the endings, but I think we should all be able to figure out which one is going to have a positive impact on our lives and which one's going to turn us into a domestic violence statistic.

[–] agingelderly@lemmy.world 37 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm already jealous of Canadians, to give them passport free travel and the option to move anywhere in Europe.... fuuuuck me

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

id go live with my brother in germany for a while, id love to see the black forest and the old castles. or go look for some amber chunks in the water of the baltic sea.

[–] r8KNzcU8TzCroexsE2xbWC@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

I like this idea a lot but would like to retain our currency. Otherwise I think it’s all upside.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 hours ago (7 children)

Why are you attached to the currency?

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 36 points 9 hours ago
[–] Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 16 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

This is an interesting prospect. I hope that it's explored further. Either that, or the CANZUK idea.

Middle Power Path.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t think I want to be chained up to the UK.

They’re not a good example these days.

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 10 points 6 hours ago

the UK is also barely european. also their politics feel very american

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Both were being called for under Trudeau, he couldn't make it work.

[–] Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Trudeau as a leader was a nothingburger in terms of effectiveness.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of the time it felt like he would only do something if it benefited the Americans.

I was glad he stepped down, but it still illustrates that people wanted it.

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[–] Sepia@mander.xyz 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 7 hours ago

See, we're speaking German already.

[–] AGM@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

False dichotomy, and both are bad ideas.

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 18 points 9 hours ago (12 children)

Quick fun fact: Morocco considers itself European in a geographical sense, or at least they once did and applied for membership.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 10 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think Morocco is super European culturally though. There are values they very much disagree with most Europeans on, such as LGBTQ rights.

I have no issue with Morocco as a trade partner, or easy travel between Morocco and the EU, but I don't think we'd like the vibes they'd bring to the European Parliament, etc.

There's something to be gained from diversity of course, but I do think their society's values are a bit too different from most of ours.

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