TeamSpeak had their chance, but they decided to be complacent after getting popular. Now they are playing catchup and very slowly. Discord has given them multiple chances now to take back market share, but TeamSpeak was never ready. This time some other project will take over instead.
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Its also closed source as i recently learned...
How did that go unnoticed? I always remember them requiring a license in order to have more than a small handful of people connected to the server you are running locally on your own computer.
The last time i used teamspeak i was like 15 i think. So i just forgor i guess.
I still prefer to open my window and just scream for the person I’m trying to reach. Fuhgedaboutet
They got trounced by Ventrilo, which had the saddest looking UI I’ve ever seen on a commercial product.
There was something kind of special about how simple Vent was. It didn't need a bunch of bells and whistles, it did one thing and it was relatively easy for people to use. Discord feels so cluttered and it's full of shit I don't want.
I liked it, it reminded me of AIM
Steam had 90% of the tooling just needs polishing
I never thought about that. I use the voice chat a little bit, but you are right that it works well enough and I can stream my games.
The only pain point would be for people that don't use steam for whatever reason. Discord offers the web interface which is useful when video chatting with non gamers.
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Bring back Mumble!
If only Mumble contained more than 10% of the features Discord does.
I'm tired of people suggesting replacements that only do one small part of what Discord does. It's like needing a new car, and all people keep suggesting is new engines. I don't care if the engine is better than my current car, an engine alone does not solve my needs.
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Mumble is alive and well amongst Project Reality players. Same with Teamspeak for the Arma community as well as some roleplaying communities like on RedM.
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Mobile app is dogshit but the Teamspeak 6 desktop client is decent.
Ultimately my group is using Steam for now and checking out Fluxer self-hosting once the refactor gets done.
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So seriously, what's going to replace Discord? Everyone wants to leave, but to where?
And no, Matrix is not and will never be a viable alternative
I've seen mentioned these:
- Stoat - pretty much same UI, based in UK, not sure where they get $$
- Fluxer - looks virtually like 1:1 Discord clone, based in Sweden, has paid tier pretty much like Nitro on Discord on official server
- Nerimity - a little different UI, but still very Discord-y, based in UK, sourced from donations
- Movim - this one is interesting, but it's not really Discord style app; it looks more like cross breed between IM and social network (FB/X), origin in France
- Strafe - looks like Discord, supposedly have e2ee
- Spacebar - reverse engineered Discord, IDK about maturity of this one
- Adapt - another wanna be
Why is "one-to-one clone of Discord" the goal for everyone? Why not set your sights on a making a good UX instead?
I don't think it's necessarily the goal — Discord is just a helpful yardstick to compare things to as a baseline (and some people are looking for something that replaces Discord as closely as possible). Having to switch services is a pain, and whilst it's not optimal in the long term to just try to replace a thing with a clone, I can see why people don't have the executive function energy to think too hard about this.
Well, Discord's UI is certainly not the holy grail, but it's quite functional and people are used to it. So it's pretty much logical you copy the concept to some extent when you want to appeal to these people?
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Matrix is not
With LiveKit for calls / screen share, it is for my group. Though I'm not saying it doesn't have issues.
will never be
Community-developed homeservers like continuwuity have gotten a lot of new support on the last few weeks. Clients like cinny are getting pretty close to a replacement ux wise (if you look at PR2599 on Cinny's GitHub, they are working on and will soon merge support for LiveKit in a way that is very close to voice channels).
I also generally think that the only way to replace Discord as an ecosystem where you talk to many people from different communities is a federated protocol, not a bunch of new silos, one for each community.
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The problem isn't that there are no alternatives. It's that there's like 50 alternatives. Centralization makes us vulnerable, but it's also super convenient.
There's a reason we preferred reddit and now Lemmy instead of different forums with different logins for everything.
The biggest problem with getting off Discord is fragmentation of communities.
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There's Stoat (formerly Revolt) and Fluxer. Additionally, Steam has many Discord-like features in app.
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TeamSpeak can only replace the voice chatting aspect. The vast majority of people use discord for text chat.
It's really such a different beast. You can chat in a discord server while you're on your phone when you're unavailable to chat on voice. I know teamspeak has an app, but it was clunky last time I bothered with it, and it's still not that type of experience. People love discord chat, they love the emotes, they love their profiles. I just can't see a lot of people giving that up.
And like I've said earlier, I'm not even sure if most people are aware of the changes or if they even care. The people from Aus or the UK that I've seen on discord lately seem like they're just dealing with the id requirements.
This is my issue with finding a replacement, text and voice in one with specific channels.
I like to segregate my topics so things don't get too cluttered, it's why I moved from Skype to Discord originally. But I also want my voice chat and text chats to be in the same program.
I've used Ventrilo and TeamSpeak before for voice and I liked the self hosting option, but no text. IRC is text without voice. Matrix looks... complicated to self host.
So I'm looking at Stoat (formerly Revolt)
Fluxer. Literally just fluxer. It's being made by a ex security tester for discord. Already 90%+ feature parity with discord.
The free user experience is solid and its funding is a rather simple and straight forward sub model to support centralized hosting for the less technical users or larger communities. With an option to self host, self hosting is free provides all the same benefits as the sub as it should since you arnt using their bandwidth.
The only problem with it is it just rolled into beta and is being overloaded with new users.
The mobile app is under development but has a bunch of flutter devs working on it. And the pwa app works extremely well in the mean time.
This is my issue with finding a replacement, text and voice in one with specific channels.
Currently, Movim offers very good text chat (even offers optional encryption!), as well as group video/voice calls as well as screensharing with audio (must use a chromium browser to share the audio for now). It also has fully fleshed out and working federation, which is super important in the long-term. it works across all platforms, and runs in the browser.
Downsides: It is currently missing Discord-like servers with rooms, but the dev is actively working on implementing those, and later drop-in voice rooms. They also just launched a funding drive to help accelerate development. It's not quite as polished and smooth as Discord in the UX department, but it does work reliably, and it's available right now.
If those tradeoffs aren't deal breakers, than I'd say it's definitely worth a try. It's very quick to sign-up to test, as it doesn't require an email.
So I’m looking at Stoat (formerly Revolt)
Currently, Stoat cannot yet perform video calls or screenshare, though I believe they are working on that. It is also not federated, and I don't believe there are plans to implement any federation, which is personally a big knock against it.
I'd say if you find that Movim isn't workable for you, you may want to wait for Fluxer to improve, as that does plan to implement federation and limited encryption, the downside is it's quite buggy at the moment, and it could be a while before it's ready.
Hope that helps :)
Also @QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works, @kurcatovium@piefed.social
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I mean TeamSpeak did only one thing, and it was good.
I don't really get it. Every time I've reluctantly used Discord, I've gotten absolutely lost in UI. And I don't know what's wrong with just using Steam calls (for games) which works great tbh.
But the really annoying thing about Discord is when open source communities use it. Open source projects have no business using closed platforms like this, where I can't even browse the discussions without signing up, and you can't find bug reports by search engine. Just use some open discussion forum software. GitHub discussions is fine...
Just use some open discussion forum software.
GitHub discussions is fine…
Pick one. Github most certainly is not open.
Tbf it's still better than locking it behind discord but you are very correct.
Go team Codeberg!
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Twitter is the new 4chan
Posted this as a reply to someone else, but seems they have deleted their comment, but here is a spreadsheet someone is working on that compares the different options now: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14vicw-V9Z5m7ckuburP5wxyDIIb_fFJFEjnxxHk8qRw/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Teamspeak is actually insane in 2026. Just goes to show what kind of progress in online communicators can be made if you invest into anything reasonable and not surveillance.
was an ok meme shitting on discord, but most platforms suck ass
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