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[–] jojowakaki@lemmy.world 26 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is patent troll right? If I am to trust wikipedia, Nokia had nothing to do with the development of HEVC.

The HEVC format was jointly developed by more than a dozen organisations across the world. The majority of active patent contributions towards the development of the HEVC format came from five organizations: Samsung Electronics (4,249 patents), General Electric (1,127 patents),[10] M&K Holdings (907 patents), NTT (878 patents), and JVC Kenwood (628 patents).[11] Other patent holders include Fujitsu, Apple, Canon, Columbia University, KAIST, Kwangwoon University, MIT, Sungkyunkwan University, Funai, Hikvision, KBS, KT and NEC.[12]

Also:

When the MPEG LA terms were announced, commenters noted that a number of prominent patent holders were not part of the group. Among these were AT&T, Microsoft, Nokia, and Motorola. Speculation at the time was that these companies would form their own licensing pool to compete with or add to the MPEG LA pool

Something doesn't seem right.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

No, Nokia do own a bunch of patents on it, I'm pretty sure they also created (and have patents on) the HEIF format used in HEIC/AVIF as well.

Edit: search results were failing me, but here's a couple.

https://blogs.windows.com/devices/2013/03/18/h-265hevc-high-quality-video-at-half-the-bandwidth/ https://mspoweruser.com/nokia-details-its-contribution-to-h-265hevc-hints-at-integration-in-devices/

[–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 6 points 14 hours ago

Thanks for doing the search.

[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 10 points 21 hours ago

I like the news not because I think Asus and Acer should be paying more royalties to the whichever ghoul in the patent web there is but because every-time something like this happens it’s another hit against support for hevc and its nearly 6 year old successor that’s gotten little to no relevant adoption in mobile or desktop hardware. AV2 will publish its final standard 6 years after VVC and pretty much not be behind at all because of how crappy the patent situation is for hevc and vvc

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I feel like I'm missing something here. What do the manufacturers have to do with this, beyond perhaps including HEVC in advertising content? That's on the GPU maker, AFAIK asus/acer practically purchase them from a catalog and build the rest around that size/shape

Edit: if its the licensing fee, that's on the OS and/or end user, not the hardware

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe they're including the unlicensed codec in their computers.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Ahh, if that's the case, i have no sympathy for fucking with a stock OS before handing it to the user. Nobody likes vendor bloatware

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Not even if it's a free codec you'd normally have to pay for?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Id be questioning what else they changed that I don't see

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 15 hours ago

I mean it's probably not going to be much shadier than the OS itself. Fuck Windows.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

If it's free, you're the product.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 10 hours ago

AV1 isn't a paid product being given away for free.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago

Pretty sure they just include it to get fewer returns ("My computer doesn't play videos!") and Acer and Asus here opted to do it without paying the license fee.

Some manufacturers do include far more nefarious shit though. You're right there. I don't know who includes what these days, last Windows laptop I bought was a dv6-2000 series HP Pavilion. That was horrific before a clean install of Windows 7, and then slightly later, a clean install of Ubuntu 9.10, my first foray into Linux :)

Now I wish I could put new internals in the ol' HP and it's probably possible with a tiny SBC, but I think I threw it away because it was half-molten anyway. Loved the "Espresso" design.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There’s another patent suit with Disney+ over HDR, or maybe the same thing, in Germany right now, too.