I think many Canadians are simply fed up with the charade that America is our friend. They never have been. Not under any President. Trump might be completely inept and therefore making it obvious, but America has always considered Canada to be theirs. Only an independent country so long as we toe their line. We must always support them and come to their aid but may never surpass them in any way. For that we must always try to keep a friendly posture so that they have no "excuse" to invade us.
Of course that is all about government. There are many individual people who might like Canadians. Be family. Be friends. Doesn't change the nature of their government though. It truly believes that the world is theirs to do with as they wish and Canada is just a small country in that equation.
America is and always has been the country that many people recognize Russia or China to be. We have to find a way to live with them but it would be a huge mistake to go back to thinking that they are actually friends or even allies.
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Considering that it has been less than 100 years that America has been considered our ally (the entire purpose of Confederation in 1867 was to form a strong Canada that could defend itself against the American foe), the needle has been pointing to 'enemy' longer than it has been pointing to 'ally'. History will regard the 'friend' part as just a brief interlude.
I am afraid Americans in general do not look at Canadians as 'friends', they look at us as 'customers'.
The majority of Americans view Canada as our closest and most trusted ally. Maga fascist are the exception to that rule apparently.
It will be really hard to be friends again when at least 70 millions USA citizens voted for this in 3 different occasions. And only a few did a thing to prevent it.
Going back to USA would be like a spouse who keeps going back to an abusive partner.
I hope we improve our friendship with the rest of the world for some peace of mind.
As far as I’m concerned, the US’s do-nothing “resistance” is a bigger problem than the MAGA trash.
I have tired of hearing how many voted for him. How many did anything to stop him? How many are doing anything now?
That is what matters. Lines have been crossed.
casually joked about absorbing Canada
Fuck off with this bullshit. It wasn't a joke. I'm so sick of the media normalizing Trump's crap.
To be clear:
- Trump specifically said he wasn’t joking
- Trump said he wanted to use economic warfare to “acquire” Canada.
- Trump said the US needs to “acquire” Canada.
- The US government is meeting with and likely funding separatists
- The US government was doing this last time Trump was in power
This is exactly what Russia did before annexing Crimea. This is not idle threats, not a joke, and not to be taken as some obscene bargaining position.
Politico is owned by Axel Springer, a conservative media holding company. Of course they’re going to normalize trump’s lunacy as “joking.”
"casually joked" - No sir. PM gave DT the benefit of the doubt by casually joking about trading for California or Vermont, but DT never laughed. DT only doubled down by repeating 51 many times over many months.
That’s what he does. If you think he is joking, he’ll double down. If you react like he’s being serious, he’ll say he was only joking and but then double down later.
He doesn't know what a joke is. He can make fun of someone but he can't make an actual joke
That kind of flip flopping only shows he's an qualified troll.
A troll with nukes.
If that scares you buy a bunker.
In this economy?
As an American this hurts. None of the US allies (former allies?) have done for the US what Canada has. Canada has gone so above and beyond whenever the US has had a crisis (ie. 9/11).
Like how stupid do you have to be to ruin that? And it’s not just POTUS. There have literally been Canadians who were arrested by ICE. Yet, people like Newsom are still trying to entice Canadians to visit the US. Sure, nothing could happen. But if something happens, you could get deported to some random country before you can mount a defense even though Canada shares a land border.
It’s selfish and is a stark juxtaposition against how the Canadians treated Americans. It’s beyond fucked.
Canada would have done anything for the US. Canada is a good friend.
But the situation has become more like freeing the German soldier in Saving Private Ryan. Helping the USA in 2026 is like putting a bullet in your other friend yourself.
And it is not just how Trump treats Canada. Denmark bled for the US over 9/11 and they got Greenland belongs to the US as thanks. How many Ukranians have died as result of current US policy?
And is it just Trump? Important men all over the world are being held to account over Epstein. Anybody in the US?
The US itself is the biggest victim. The US is murdering its own citizens in the streets. No reaction. Not really. How exactly is that genie going back in the bottle? I was in Chicago when 9/11 happened. The US was never the same after. This has changed it more and more irreversibly.
It is such a sad and tragic end. So much for the shining city on a hill.
As a Canadian with elderly American family this hurts. I want to visit them but don't want to go down there.
As a Canadian this also hurts. A lot.
I don’t want to hate the US, I don’t have issues with a lot of the American people, but I can’t see the actions of the US government as anything less than an adversary and an existential threat.
The thing about existential threats is you have no choice, you cannot ignore them, because even a 10% chance has immense costs, and the expected value of what you should commit to covering them is massive.
Honestly it feels a lot like what Russia did before annexing Crimea and before the war in Ukraine. Down to meeting with and funding separatists, mass propaganda campaigns, etc.
The fascist plague is in Canada too, and Canada has to take action to protect itself from it. Just recently there was a police-led Nazi rally in Toronto. There was another one earlier last year at Christie Pits too but they got pushed out by counter protesters. It's in government as well, all the cons are trying to bring American politics to Canada
Canada needs to take action before it's too late
We have a Christo-Nazi fucking up a school board in Hamilton on an anti-woke agenda the Wine moms love. She's been working with local Nazi, Paul Fromm.
I don’t have issues with a lot of the American people
I have a serious issue with about 2/3rds of them. 1/3 voted for the orange sack of mayo and another 1/3 just shrugged.
1/3 voted for the orange fuck and another 1/3 just shrugged...TWICE
"Stronger: 7%"
😐
That's not even a partisan issue, and yet
7% of canadians are traitors, apparently
Since they love trump and his policies so much, we should send federal agents to round them up for treason
7% of canadians are traitors, apparently
Look at any poll. There is always a low number of 5-10% that believe in the weirdest shit. Flat earth. Alien abduction. Anti-science nonsense, Homeopathy, etc.
10% of any civilized population are complete fucking idiots.
Lizardman’s constant.
I'm surprised it's not higher. A lot of people I know only moved to Canada to get into the usa. Or because they couldn't get into the usa.
So for them, joining the usa is ideal.
It's sad.
Maybe they will change their view given what we see going on in the USA? It's hardly looking like the land of opportunity these days.
Any person, anywhere in the world, with a little bit of judgement and political understanding, can see that the US has been a threat to the world for decades, masquerading as the beacon of freedom and truth. It brought nothing but war, consumerism, destructive and unfair capitalism, pollution, hollywood propaganda, corruption, terrorism, racism, and many more. Of course we can't deny the good things that came out, or the good people who fight against these things. They are the ones that matter.
Everyone should hate our government. Our government is letting people die on top of the ones it's killing. As well those who voted for this...thing.
All of the former allies of the US hates the US now. With good reason.
Also Russia loves the US now. With good reason.
i'm american and i hate america. usa is 100% the greatest fucking threat to the planet. it has been for decades, but only now that it's officially fascism has it become obvious and right in everyone's face. diplomacy was stopping the states before. now, nothing is.
It sucks that you guys don't have a bigger military than the US because I would LOVE if we became a Canadian province.
Can you guys at least scoop up the great lakes states? Minnesota, Michigan, and Illinois, please. Wisconsin has great cheese so you might like them, too
Wisconsin isn't going to like Canadian liquor laws
I would LOVE if we became a Canadian province.
I honestly don't think most Americans would adapt to Canadian culture. Most states have very liberal cities that might adapt, but go 60 minutes out of a city and its a stupid, gun fucking, jesus loving freak show. Even Alberta isn't this bad.
Yes, bad idea. I have two neighbors who moved from US and they brought the stupid with them. Move to Canada then put PPC signs on your yard, fuck right off.
That's a bit too hyperbolic. I live in a Chicago suburbs and I'd have to travel 2 more hours to find a gun but city. They're not as common as the media would have you believe.
Of the states I listed, Wisconsin is worst in that regard. Parts of Michigan are the same but the gun culture there is more about hunting (for food, not purely for entertainment)
When I started teaching 35 years ago, I posed the question, "Should Canada join the U. S." as a writing assignment. Back then, around 50 % were in favour. Over the years, it was nearly a linear descent. When I retired, I would get maybe 1 in a class of 30 that would be for it.
They've made themselves a Pariah State, not just a Rouge or Failed state.
God forbid they make themselves a Mauve state.
damnit lol
Don't worry so so Americans.
I'm mildly peeved at the great Satan, the United $nakes of AmeriKKKa
It warms me up a little to see at least a plurality of Canadian Conservatives recognize the harms Trump is doing to Canada, the USA and the world. It confirms that most don't have their heads stuck in the sand or are a stooge like Jivani.
Unless you guys start calling your right wingers Americans this will happen to you too.
Unless you guys start calling your right wingers Americans
This was the head of our right wing party, and he is literally an American citizen.
He said he would revoke his US citizenship when he was running for PM.
