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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I completely blame ChromeOS.

Even on AD snafu'd windows, the first thing we all did was figure out how to bypass any block and do what we wanted to.

Kids are growing up not knowing there are things you can do aside from accessing the internet and loading crappy webpages.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I came here to say something similar. It's not merely tech that's to blame but the kind of tech we have today. Kids are being raised to be consumers of tech and tech services. They don't have basic fundamentals that millenials had to learn to access porn on dialup.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Once you had the phone line to yourself it was easy, just dial out and open cracked limewire or bearshare, then simply click the first horny thing you see, like:

-br1tney_nud3s_14.4k friendly-.exe -filesize 66kb

[–] TechAnon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I was the kid my friends' dads would call to fix the PC (because SOMEHOW - "A hacker put a virus on there"), before their wives got back home. Made some nice extra cash!

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There are even people writing 'software' who don't know that.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I'm so fucking happy I'm not the only one who has noticed that.

jesus christ we're so fucked.

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[–] BanaramaClamcrotch@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago

It’s so sad that we love shitting in younger generations and we love making things harder for them. This isn’t a new concept btw. Americas been doing that for generations

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Also the underfunding of teachers and overall mismanagement in persuit of profits.

[–] kevinsbacon@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago

The problem isn’t keyboards it’s the policies and reasoning.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probubbly cuz you gave the tools and didn't begin the process of using it for schools, dumbasses.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Right? I've seen plenty of people who don't know how to swing a hammer.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Correlation =/= causation. Somehow other countries did it right? So maybe it's just US thing

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No it isn’t. Finland did the same thing and now our schools are fucked up.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

No, what's messed up education in Finland is that it's much, much harder now to fail and hold back a student. The semi-equivalent of the USA's No Child Left Behind policy.

Schools here in Finland still use plenty of books, and at least they still teach how to use computers, like typing lessons, unlike the USA.

Here in Masala they even started teaching classes about detecting AI use, it's usage in propaganda, and privacy on the internet plus usage of AdBlockers in elementary school. My wife gave the lessons - though she changed it up on the second one after seeing that kids don't really care about this stuff much unless framed differently, like "you can watch YouTube without ads" rather than "it's your legal right to not have ads as children" and "Linux has many many free games" for example.

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[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Capable of what though? We have all the evidence we need that our parents and their parents are brain damaged. Maybe that kind of cognitive capability is bad and there's a goldilocks zone to go back to.

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[–] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 19 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile we’re integrating AI into classrooms. Surely nothing bad will come from that.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I suspect that if Gen Z designed their own cognitive tests, their tests would determine that we older generations were less cognitively capable than them.

The reality is that every generation adapts in different ways to fit their own cognitive circumstances, and one generation’s metric is at best an imperfect match for another—“cognitive capacity” can’t be objectively measured.

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[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

lol, I mostly ditched textbooks in high school not to support technology, but because I was tired of carrying around huge books in my backpack, the bulk of which I wouldn't even need on a daily basis. Lo and behold, even 14 years ago, I could find pdf versions of most of my textbooks, some of which were offered officially from the publisher for free via the school.

The problems are the enshittification of the internet, the attention economy and the superb lack of American educational system, not technology itself. Almost every university in the world is filled with the sounds of clacking keys from laptops, this isn't 1984.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Technology is part of it. For example, handwriting notes is proven to be better for information retention compared to typing.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 12 points 2 days ago

I'm sure the switch was a profit driven enterprise evey step of the way, so it worked perfectly, and additionally created more malleable servants.

It's a scam, y'all.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The mistake was a bunch of people who learned how to use computers as adults thinking that the only way to learn how to use a computer is to do so from a young age, in non-vocational ways.

Doesn’t make sense, does it?

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 16 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It's all part of the plan, create technological dependency. Why is Google so laser focused on making sure these school PCs are always Chromebooks?

Raise an entire generation that can't write, research, calculate, synthesize, without a Chromebook. If it breaks, they buy a new one, when they grow up they rely on always having one, and so on.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They really need to ban phones for students in grade school.

"But, they need them for safety!"

How the hell did we ever get along without every kid having an internet connected computer in their pocket since forever before they were invented? No, they don't need them for "safety".

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[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It angers me when people use the US as an example to aspire to. The US are so broken and fucked up, if they're doing something the default reaction should be to not do it because it's most likely some idiotic, fucked up thing. They are a negative example.

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