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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 51 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (10 children)

This is one thing I never understood... how does he keep getting away with it? Repeatedly screwing people over and over and over and over again and somehow no one doing shit about it?

He doesn't just screw over workers, he does it for his business partners, too. Wealthy and powerful people... people who can hire hitmen and also pay to make the evidence disappear. If they can kill Epstein why wouldn't they have gotten rid of him in the 80s and 90s when he didn't have as much power as he does now?

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago

Unscrupulous people use other unscrupulous people as patsies... They're all so up their own ass that they don't think they'll be the one that has one over on them. They are all narcissistic.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't get it either. My cousins lived in Southern New Jersey, near Atlantic City, where all of his casinos went bankrupt. He was notorious for not paying local contractors and some went into horrible debt due to his refusal to pay. Yet that whole region is crazy about him. I suppose they just don't have very good memories around there.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 12 hours ago

Those lead pipes are really paying off.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The american legal system is catered to one principal:

if you owe your bank $10 that's your problem, if you owe your bank $10 billion dollars, that is your banks' problem.

This is why salespeople and scammers flourish in america: get enough loans and debt and you can uno reverse any monetary problem here but often rich people and bullshit artists are the only ones who have enough collateral to get that kind of debt.

The courts are designed to take a lifetime to figure that kind of stuff out - it keeps going as long as you have money. This is why republicans are obsessed with the estate tax: if you pass it on to your kids before the scam gets sorted out, all the ill gotten gains are laundered. Your kids are set for life and all the people you conned foot the bill.

It also shows how much a high estate tax would cripple these incentives.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago

My understanding is the not paying people is “legit” in that the remedy is the courts but his lawyers are good at making it too costly to pursue. If they believe they weren’t paid, they should sue: notice there are few judgements against him like that.

It’s just like all his shell companies. During the first reign of terror, there were articles that they found over 500 companies with payments going back and forth so the web was impossible to decipher and there were always Trump owned companies with huge losses/writeoffs. I don’t remember them actually finding anything illegal but it sure smells like it. He even bragged it was so complex that the irs didn’t have enough auditors to dig through that for tax fraud. It was almost a dare. What happened to that?

[–] JustAGuy@lemmy.org 1 points 12 hours ago

Parents are probably more connected than we know, or he got in by providing their proclivities.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 7 points 19 hours ago

He doesn't screw over the Epstein class, and that's all that really matters

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Same way I stuck with my wife for 20 years despite her being a rotten person - I kept hoping it would get better, and she'd string me along with promises... Then she cheated on me with our son's best friend's dad, that finally made it easy to leave, and once I left, hindsight made all the previous mistreatment so much more obvious...

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yo dawg pardon my language but fuck that bitch. Stay strong and sorry someone played with your heart like that. Your example speaks volumes for your son.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Good god. Makes me thankful that I leave people behind easily. You're overdue for treating yourself to some unrestrained enjoyment of life.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

What if in our world of infinite universal timeline probabilities, this is the timeline where Trump always gets what he wants?

To think there's a potentiality where he always loses and we missed it by this much.

[–] rezifon@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

This is one thing I never understood… how does he keep getting away with it? Repeatedly screwing people over and over and over and over again and somehow no one doing shit about it?

All his fans and supporters believe that he only screws over their common enemies. In fact, they love that he does that. They falsely believe that he would never screw over them. He will never eat their faces. They think they're the in group with Trump.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The Russian agents keeping tabs on their useful idiot must have protected him.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

How exactly are you imagining that? Did they stand in the way every time someone tried to wipe Trump out?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Considering how rare assassination attempts are now despite him being objectively the most hated person the world has ever seen (by sheer numbers - there weren't nearly as many people alive when Hitler lived), it's admittedly unlikely, but still plausible.

[–] Ranulph@thelemmy.club 15 points 23 hours ago

Its the old bait and switch. Did you know that Federal Deposit Insurance can be paid out in a period of decades? They can make you ''whole'' over a period of time that can stretch over years. Technically you will not lose any money but practically you can die before you get your money.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

An authoritarian typically keeps the military and police well-fed, or alternatively allows them to rob the plebs as they see fit. Otherwise bad things may happen to the emperor.

Unfortunately, Trump is likely to kick the bucket before he sees any blowback of this.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

yeah he did trash all those science fundings for a reason and part of it is to pay his own policing force aka ICE

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Also because science is woke and/ or gay. I believe it says so in the executive order.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

And that's because Trump is a Russian shill and Russia promised to bring down America in this exact way, a half a century ago. Edit dmn I'm getting old that's closer to 3/4ths of a century

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Almost like we should have listened to this guy.

https://youtu.be/Z1EA2ohrt5Q

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 22 hours ago

except the words are not allowed so they are also reducted from the executive order

[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
[–] doug@lemmy.today 183 points 1 day ago (4 children)

sadly I would not put it past a lot of those psychopaths to do it for free.

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 111 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No doubt that some of them are doing it for the love of the game. 🫤

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was recently thinking, this recruitment drive must be heaven for the common proud boys brownshirt.

Who of them wouldn't sign up, they get to harm immigrants, they get cover from the very top if they catch public attention, they get gear, and they might even get paid for it.

[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

This is what he meant by "stand back and stand by"

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago

Maybe some of them just show up in masks with their mallninjashit, and they’re not on the payroll and no one asks if they did the two week training.

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 65 points 1 day ago (4 children)

ICE had a signup bonus (dunno how much, $4000, I think?), and nobody received it yet.

The guy who is 'famous for not paying' is Trump, who has a history of being in debt/not paying his debts off.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Specifically not paying contractors. He would regularly hire contractors for jobs at Trump buildings/companies where it was x% up front and x% on completion. Then when they came for the completion percent he would just not pay and make them take him to court. Sometimes he paid, but other times they just couldn't afford to litigate as long as he could so they'd get stiffed.

Edit: USA Today Article because citing your sources is important: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

Or paying the buses to his rally in winter but not back, abandoning a ton of his followers to freeze the night or find other ways home.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago

If you run out of money you run out of justice

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Afaik the bonus promised is 50k, which is a bit more significant. Leads to people joking that they'd like to join, get the bonus and then just not do the job.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have to stay with the agency several years. The plan is to fire them before paying.

[–] diablomnky666@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 day ago

Exactly it's a retention bonus that gets paid out in stages, but DHS can also recoup all of it if the agent/goon leaves before the period expires. I wouldn't be surprised if they dangle a "reenlistment" bonus near the end of the term which locks them in longer.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Signup bonus is different from retention/quota bonus. Signup bonus is all him

But the big one, the retention bonus can probably be pushed off long enough to blame democrats and/or not paid because they’re not making their quotas

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It was way more than that- like 50-70k...

*Edit* never mind me, apparently that was a retention bonus, different thing

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Is that from true lies?

I’m sure it’s Arnold’s face

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s one of the most hilarious things to me, just a masked face with Arnold’s lips making Arnold groans. That scene was gold, fuck that whole movie was gold

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Except for that weird strip scene with Jamie Lee Curtis. That did not age well.

I watched True Lies again a few years back, and that scene made me cringe hard.

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s even better because when they do get paid if they leave before their 5 years they have to pay back their bonuses INCLUDING tax.

So they’re kinda paying for the privilege of hunting minorities. Really sick to think about.

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