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    [–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 27 minutes ago

    If you do want windows do this....put windows on a sacrificial drive.... Promise to yourself that there's just garbage in there so it doesn't matter... Install Linux on another drive. Have your computer start from the Linux drive thru grub. Set up grub to recognize the windows drive. No, no matter how hard that bitch ass OS tries to update your godly Linux install, it won't find anything. Fuck you Microsoft! Knowledge is power. Now go out there and compute.

    [–] Switorik@lemmy.zip 73 points 3 hours ago (6 children)

    This is why I no longer dual boot and removed windows all together.

    [–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 56 minutes ago

    There are two or three work functions that can only be done on Windows when working from home. So it gets its own Windows 10 VM with just enough resources to perform those functions, installed with a local account and ShutUp10 to remove all the automated "feature" updates. If something goes wrong, I can nuke it and lose nothing.

    [–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

    This is the only way to go.

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 24 points 2 hours ago

    Realized I hadn’t booted Windows on my personal PC in 6 months and said yup time to nuke it all together

    [–] krank55@feddit.org 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    idk what this meme means because i've never considered dual booting

    [–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

    the cat in the image is windows update taking over the linux boot partition: the box, instead of leaving it alone for the much more comfortable windows boot partition: the cat tree.

    [–] Phineaz@feddit.org 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I honestly never had isses as long as both are kept on separate drives

    [–] Switorik@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    It's been about while so I don't recall if I had them on separate drives or not but windows would delete the linux boot partition during updates.

    [–] Phineaz@feddit.org 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Yeah, that regularly happens if both are on the same drive. I think windows should be in the front and Linux behind it to avoid it, but you never know

    [–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 1 points 15 minutes ago

    Well, it makes little difference in the end; Windows should keep its grubby fingers out of someone else’s partitions. Whether this be Linux, MacOS or - yes - another Windows installation.

    [–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    If I didn’t have to use it a handful of times a year for work I’d have wiped my windows drive and extended my Linux storage. Alas.

    I feel for the folks who can’t afford a second drive to dual boot.

    [–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 51 minutes ago

    I have five machines, one headless, the other four on KVM, 2 Linux 2 windows. Mainly only use the one windows for work bs that I never want to touch my personal space. I spend most my time on my Linux machine and just use rustdesk though. Having three monitors helps because one is pretty much dedicated to rustdesk.

    [–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago

    It’s why I put windows on its own drive. It can enshittify itself in its own space.

    [–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I mean, that's what happens when you install spyware; it infects things...

    [–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 1 points 14 minutes ago

    I am forced into using W11 and I can confirm this is true.

    [–] pogodem0n@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    In my experience, Windows only fucks-up your Linux bootloader if they both share the same EFI System Partition. Keeping them separate fixes the issue. Though, this means that you'll have to install Windows first, since it will automatically pick your Linux ESP otherwise.

    [–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

    Yup and adding a password to the BIOS was recommended to me by some sysadmin online. Don't know how that specifically helps but haven't had problems since.

    [–] ScientifficDoggo@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Considering Bill Gates made it, you can expect it to be grabby and invasive.

    [–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 1 points 12 minutes ago

    Gnu linux and gonorrhoea windows

    [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

    This was always really funny to me. Gonna do an update behind my back? Great. Go ahead lol

    [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    is there a way to avoid this? and what workflow should be in place ahead of it happening if not?

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 2 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

    You need two separate SSDs. One for Linux, one for Windows.

    • Install Linux on SSD-A. Make sure it has an EFI system partition with a bootloader in it (GRUB, systemd-boot, REFInd), don't use an efistub. If the installer is done, disconnect the SSD to be safe.
    • Install Windows on SSD-B with the desired updates. It will create its own EFI partition.
      • Optionally, you can create a separate NTFS volume for your C:\Users so you don't have to mount the entire system on Linux if you need to access your files.
    • Boot into Windows. Use a tool to completely disable the updates. I use WinUtil by Chris Titus.
    • Reconnect SSD-A.
    • Boot and enter the firmware configuration. In the boot device list, make sure SSD-A has a much higher priority than SSD-B! You can even remove SSD-B from the bootable devices.
    • Boot into Linux. In the bootloader configuration, create an entry that targets the Windows C: volume on SSD-B.
      • Alternatively, you can just use the firmware's boot menu to boot from SSD-B.

    Done. If you need to update Windows, physically disconnect SSD-A and boot from SSD-B.

    [–] untorquer@quokk.au 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    Separate hard drives one for windows and one for Linux+GRUB then grub just needs to be told where the windows boot loader is and BIOS should load GRUB default.

    OP post happens when you attempt to just use partitions. It can work per other comment, just more fragile.

    [–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I've had one issue in the past year and a half, dual booting from the same NVMe.
    After fixing the boot partition issues from a liveUSB, the actual solution was disabling fast-boot.
    It's been solid for a year now.

    But I always shutdown my laptop when I'm not using it. And any windows updates that require restarts, I make sure it fully reboots into windows again.

    [–] untorquer@quokk.au 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Oh no! Not an extra hundred milliseconds to post!

    [–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    And it's still faster for my linux install to boot.
    LUKS password for disk encryption, then user login to a usable desktop with network connectivity.
    Windows takes ages to get to a login screen (bitlocker is disabled, so no decryption excuse), logging in is a breeze with fingerprint reader (certainly faster than typing in a password), then it sits there for ages looking like it's ready to be used, but the network stack isn't ready and it is just unusable until that comes up.

    I'm so happy when I get a day of just working in Linux.
    It just... Works.