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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 3 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

OK Newsom, you've lost me. I enjoyed your chaotic responses to the drumpf but you've officially lost me.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 points 9 minutes ago

Realize, this has always been him. He is NOT a liberal. He is a conservative who calls himself a democrat.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

The law does not require photo ID uploads or facial recognition, with users instead simply self-reporting their age, setting AB 1043 apart from similar laws passed in Texas and Utah that require "commercially reasonable" verification methods, such as government-issued ID checks.

What even is the point of this then? To make shitty parents feel better?

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 19 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Despite signing it, Newsom issued a statement urging the legislature to amend the law before its effective date, citing concerns from streaming services and game developers about "complexities such as multi-user accounts shared by a family member and user profiles utilized across multiple devices."

then why did you fucking sign it in the first place??

words cannot describe the depths of my seething hatred for the complete, museum grade, massive piece of shit that is Gavin Newsom

[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

Because it's a metric, a bullet point, and campaign speech fodder. Newsome thinks of his position in terms of a career rather than an office, his job isn't to lead a nation towards what's right or wrong, it's to pander so that he can be re-elected or elected to higher office.

The bullshit way that lobbying groups conduct polling and market research means they he's chronically out of touch and that his focus is on perpetuating his time in office so he can continue to "represent the people", making a calling out of bowing to the desires of the mis-informed, outraged, panicked mob he believes his electorate to be instead of actually having a spine and exercising good judgement.

The consequences of shoddy legislation take second place to being able to declare he did something to "keep kids safe". It doesn't even have to work, all that matters is having something to wave around and back up that claim. Something to placate the plebeians and let him continue to do what he does best... listen to lobbyists who are lying about what people think.

Why? Because that's what gets people elected these days. Despite being on a foundation of pure bullshit, somehow it works. So he goes along with it, encourages it, and remains in office as a result.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

What the fuck? This is ridiculous and it won't actually solve anything at all.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 40 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Why not parents responsible for their own goddamn kids? Stop interfering with the rest of our privacy for this bullshit. Parental controls have existed for decades. Fucking use them.

[–] btsax@reddthat.com 20 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because this isn't about parenting or children, it's about a creeping surveillance state

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

The new California republic seems to be the only people who see this coming

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 hours ago

User age required to be entered. There is no verification.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 hours ago

Why lawmakers are so stupid at understanding technology

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Considering the massive number of servers running Linux used in the industry, this sounds like a good way to kill the Tech Industry in California.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 34 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

This is a gift to Microsoft.

This law only applies to computers used by children. The law explicitly defines "users" as minors. It does not apply to machines used solely/primarily by adults. It does not apply to servers, or other machines with no local users. It won't affect the tech industry directly.

This law effectively prohibits your children from (legally) using anything but Microsoft/Google products until they are 18.

With this law, Linux cannot be installed on a school computer. With a FOSS OS, the local systems administrator would be considered the OS provider, and would be liable under this idiot law.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

Think about it this way: how do people learn enough about it to program for and admin Linux systems as adults?

Unless things changed a lot since my days (granted it was over 3 decades ago), the path to knowing all about using, administrating and programming software for running under Linux was through being able to play with it for fun as a teenager.

That said, thinking further about it, this might actually push more teenagers to try Linux out to avoid age-gating since they can just download a distro from anywhere in the World and install it in their own PC.

[–] BlackAura@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yep. Back in the day all the MUD servers ran on Linux. I wanted to set up my own. I knew my cousin used it so I asked him about it.

He never answered my questions directly. But he did show me how to look up the answer to my question using man pages and/or search for info online.

That first install was so painful... My friend and I didn't know how to set up the network and it turns out the tulip driver wasn't installed by default. So we'd boot to Linux, try something to get the network working, write down the error message on a sheet of paper. Boot to windows to research the fix to the error message. Rinse and repeat until we finally got it working.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

System 76 have very controversially committed to supporting this in Pop OS, so there would be at least one Linux option.

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[–] TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 7 hours ago

Saw someone say this on the last article I saw regarding this, but:

What's stopping the OSes from just putting "Not for use in California" on their product/website? Seems like a simple and easy fix lol.

[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 35 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

Did you guys know I was born January 1st 1901?

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I was born in Feb 4th, 1987

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 hours ago

I thought we were born April 20th, 1969

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 15 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

I was born in January 1st 1970, more credible and symbolic.

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Shockingly, 2000-01-01 suffices.

Or to put it more bone crumblingly:
There's no need to go back into the last millennium.

[–] clif@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

"the 1900s"

: /

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[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Luckily this dogshit is completely unenforceable. It doesn't excuse the people who introduced this law, of course.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

I love the definitions section... So, first it defines the 4 age brackets a user can be: Under 13, 13-16, 16-18, or over 18. Then they define "Child" as anyone under 18. Then, and this is where it gets good, they define a "User" as a "Child". So by these definitions, no one can be considered a user if they are over 18. (which, then, why is there an "over 18" age bracket defined earlier??)

Not only do these people not seem to understand technology, they also don't understand that people over 18 use technology, or maybe exist?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's hard enough trying to get Linux adoption in schools and businesses. This law makes it an additional liability.

Administrators of FOSS systems will be considered OS Providers under this law, and will be liable at $2000 to $7500 for every child they expose to a non-compliant OS.

Those few schools that have adopted Linux will be forced to switch to M$ and Google products.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

You keep saying that, but nothing about it is carved out specifically one way or the other for FOSS. As it is worded, any network sysadmin is considered the "OS Provider" exactly the same under Windows or Linux as they "control the operating system software on a computer". They don't "develop" or "license" the software in either case, windows or Linux. They control the OS the same amount under either windows or Linux.

Maybe it could be argued they are more likely to choose windows since the people developing and licensing the software are a big corporation and is therefore more likely to be compliant? But it isn't like Canonical and RedHat are just some guy in a basement - these are commercial entities developing and licensing software just like Microsoft.

I agree the definitions in this bill are absolutely insane - the idea that the developer, licensor, and administrator of a computer's OS would ever be the same person is astronomically unlikely. Maybe they mean something different by "control", but it isn't defined so that makes it up to the courts to decide with no direction.

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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 33 points 9 hours ago

No way this is enforceable

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The law does not require photo ID uploads or facial recognition, with users instead simply self-reporting their age

That part is good at least. It also makes the California law an exercise in wasting everyone's time and money.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The law was designed this way specifically so that people won’t fight it as hard because it doesn’t provide any verification requirements. That bill would come later once the outrage over this has waned and the age gating becomes normalized in the local culture so that people just shrug off the verification requirement in the future.

They’re not wasting any time or money, they're just playing the long game.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is religious repression of TempleOS

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

California users practice penmanship in preparation to expected return to paper and pen.

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