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[–] lumettaria@sopuli.xyz 85 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

"Tenant admins will decide whether to enable it and require end-users to opt-in."

If you require someone to opt-in, they're no longer "opting in"

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 15 points 7 hours ago

There have been teams at Microsoft making everything worse since 1998. Why is this news?

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Productivity boosters and surveillance go hand in hand.

[–] BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

So glad I only use Teams in a browser, fuck this bullshit.

Don't install Teams.

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

You can't even install it on Linux, they killed the native app years ago and now tell you to use the browser version

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

And then every link asks if you want to open in app, three extra clicks but worth it

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 62 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Teams comes pre installed with windows these days.

I recommend KDE Plasma on any linux distribution that comes with it for people interested in recovering their digital sovereignty.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago

There is a difference betwen the version for corporate (MS365 Business) and the consumer version.

Yes, they have the same name.
Yes, it's confusing.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

If people moved to Linux and used FOSS software, these privacy violations wouldn't even be a problem.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 35 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Most people who use teams do so on work devices, I can't just install Linux on it.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I cant even delete a shortcut on my work microslop machine

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, of course.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 18 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

If people moved to Linux

When users connect to their organization's WiFi...

You think my employer would let me use Linux? Creeping on employees is how management feels important.

I wouldn't use Teams personally unless under extreme duress. Unfortunately professionally it is the norm.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 hours ago

Disable your laptop webcam and microphone, use headset instead. I'll be looking to see if I can switch to Teams web.

I remember how a subcontractor's company called me with a lot of private information I assume the subcontractor had spoken to them about. The subcontractor had no clue about it, which completely changed how I had been perceiving the situation. The problem is companies are using the excuse of keeping tabs on their workers to perform outright continuous surveillance on them and try to see how they can exploit any and all information they can salvage for their benefit, which becomes a problem when there is no clear division between personal and professional space.

[–] Get_Off_My_WLAN@fedia.io 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm starting to feel like everything I do at work is under duress.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I'm glad my work PC only operates in flight mode.

[–] lasta@piefed.world 107 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago) (7 children)

This is what I gathered on the subject, feel free to correct if anything is wrong:

The WiFi tracking works by scanning for nearby WiFi networks, identifying which routers are nearby and their signal strengths, matching those against their database of known WiFi access points, and using that data to estimate your location. 

For now the feature will be off by default, first has to be enabled by your company, and then the user has to opt in for it to be used.

For those who are required to use Microsoft products, it can by bypassed by using a wired Ethernet connection and not using Teams on any devices using a wireless connection.

Edit: As @lividweasel@lemmy.world pointed out, Microsoft is not using WiFi positioning systems to determine location, but rather updating your location to “in the office” or not depending on whether your device is connected to one of the organization’s WiFi SSIDs.

[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

same go for the web browser based teams, or is this just the "app"?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 40 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The browser version shouldn't be able to access this info.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Until Edge updates and silently turns it on

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Unlikely, browser vendors are very careful adding such APIs, and MS doesn't have the pull Google does.

A simple fix is, of course, not to use Edge.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

So basically the same every Android phone does. Google has done this kind of tracking since 2007

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[–] twjolson@lemmy.world 156 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Only one team working to make Teams worse???

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 76 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

They have achieved higher productivity by not using teams themselves.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 46 points 11 hours ago

You've got it reversed. Switching to Teams greatly hastened development, as the team's newfound vitriol and frustration could be channeled toward the end user in a neverending feedback loop.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 13 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Literally! They were told to return to office to achieve higher productivity (it was circling the news around September?)

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It was obviously just a corpo stealth layoff but imagine being told as a Teams developer that Teams is not good enough for remote work

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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 10 points 11 hours ago

Just one team working on Teams, and they are doing their best to make it worse.

I for one encourage them, it apparently needs to be even worse before my work will consider changing

[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

yaeh… team Microslop…

[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

They're asking Copilot for help, so have achieved 10x productivity.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 33 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Having Teams remind you that, during session recordings, your video and what you say can be used by Microsoft for whatever purpose they want, including (but not limited to) training AI.

This wasn't the line that was crossed? Seeing/hearing your likeness in the next generated AI / copilot commercial, because you needed to consent in order to work. This is "fine" /s

... but having Microsoft know that you're answering Teams messages while on the toilet... yeah, that's where "the line gets crossed" (eyeroll)

We need to wake-up and drop this technological cancer.

edit: a word

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"It's okay, because it's Microsoft" is management's response when I raise a concern at work.

Heaven forbid you use an open source tool that isn't on the software whitelist yet

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

"It's okay, because it's Microsoft"

"You mean the mass surveillance corporation under the control of the nazis?"

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 20 points 9 hours ago
[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 22 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, I would screen potential employers by whether they are a Microsoft shop or not. Fuck ‘em.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 28 points 11 hours ago

nice to have that sort of freedom, since the majority of companies use some Microsoft products

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

i thought the same, but now working at a place using google/slack/zoom isn’t much better. pretty much all corporate software is feature creep bloated slop these days.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Literally zero problems with slack and goog (at corpo). Security opted out of AI shit and that was it.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Riiight. And what makes you trust Googles word so fervently?

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 21 points 11 hours ago

They are called stakeholders.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

So many other apps do this already, including the OS. This is changing your Teams status for you, so coworkers can see if you’re in the office or not.

If your hybrid wfh office has any sort of reservation system then this is likely already happening.

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

And is why we don't use Microsoft products.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago

Probably the same pick me they put in charge of Xbox.

[–] numbermess@fedia.io 2 points 9 hours ago

There are ten thousand teams at Microsoft making Teams worse.

[–] Retail4068@lemmy.world -3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Corporations have done this for decades. Literally.

This is you getting extra pissy because someone wrote an article you only half understand to rile you up.

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