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[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 minutes ago

They've crossed the line a long long time ago. All microslop products are straight up unusable.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 15 points 1 hour ago

Microsoft: Our product is not our software. It's you!

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

God damn it, at work they pay us to put that stuff on our personal phones... maybe I've been a bit too lenient on that, maybe I should get a work phone.

[–] Enekk@lemmy.world 11 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

Never, ever, cross the personal/work barrier. I have seen so much abuse when those lines cross.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 26 minutes ago

What if its on your phone work account? That's totally sandboxed

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I worked on a large(ish) contract (tens of millions) with one of Microsoft’s engineering teams where they were implementing an Azure managed version of software we produced. I would regularly refuse to install teams at the meetings, using teams in-browser only.

It also ensured that the technical project manager had to be the one to transcribe anything in our notes into whatever tools Microsoft was using.

While it was never said, the Microsoft engineers seemed to completely understand and never pushed back against my refusal to a) install crapware and b) not take on work that wasn’t mine.

Not using teams: win win.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 10 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I would regularly refuse to install teams at the meetings, using teams in-browser only.

I tried to do this for a safety meeting, Teams is also broken in browsers. I'm not sure if intentional or incompetence.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 hour ago

How about intentional incompetence

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

To be fair, this is barely a feature. If you are on WIFI anyone that really cares knows where you are already

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Exactly. I already don't use the work wifi because they don't need to know how much I use Lemmy while at work.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 points 55 minutes ago

No worries, I use Linux for work and privately :)

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The users aren't the customers. The customers are the users' bosses.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

And or some random dude in procurement.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 34 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This is illegal in Norway :)

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 hours ago

And Germany.

[–] hefty4871@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago

Before Teams when Evilcorp was using Skype for business the app would update our location within the building.

[–] masta_chief@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I was gonna use teams for a few groups of people, but fuck this noise. What are the best alternatives? Something like slack or discord but those have their issues too

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 hour ago

Try Stoat, or Matrix.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There are tons of alternatives. As for how good they are I have no idea. It feels like every other day a new discord alternative is highlighted here. But as of now I don't believe there's any drop in replacement for discord/teams, but that is not to say you shouldn't seek out something that is good enough.

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

The closest drop in replacement for discord is fluxer, when his servers aren't being overwhelmed that is.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dansel@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You’re doubting Microsoft’s ability to make a product worse?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

No, they have shown again and again, that they are capable of the impossible, if it comes to making things worse.

But still, we are talking Teams.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"Scientist invents new, even smellier, dog poo."

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Just add more rotting eggs.

Oh!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 hours ago

There have been teams at Microsoft making everything worse since 1998. Why is this news?

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Productivity boosters and surveillance go hand in hand.

[–] lumettaria@sopuli.xyz 76 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"Tenant admins will decide whether to enable it and require end-users to opt-in."

If you require someone to opt-in, they're no longer "opting in"

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago

But you clicked the terms and conditions popup, so you are our slave now.

[–] BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

So glad I only use Teams in a browser, fuck this bullshit.

Don't install Teams.

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can't even install it on Linux, they killed the native app years ago and now tell you to use the browser version

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

And then every link asks if you want to open in app, three extra clicks but worth it

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 59 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

Teams comes pre installed with windows these days.

I recommend KDE Plasma on any linux distribution that comes with it for people interested in recovering their digital sovereignty.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago

There is a difference betwen the version for corporate (MS365 Business) and the consumer version.

Yes, they have the same name.
Yes, it's confusing.

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