They've crossed the line a long long time ago. All microslop products are straight up unusable.
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Microsoft: Our product is not our software. It's you!
God damn it, at work they pay us to put that stuff on our personal phones... maybe I've been a bit too lenient on that, maybe I should get a work phone.
Never, ever, cross the personal/work barrier. I have seen so much abuse when those lines cross.
What if its on your phone work account? That's totally sandboxed
I worked on a large(ish) contract (tens of millions) with one of Microsoft’s engineering teams where they were implementing an Azure managed version of software we produced. I would regularly refuse to install teams at the meetings, using teams in-browser only.
It also ensured that the technical project manager had to be the one to transcribe anything in our notes into whatever tools Microsoft was using.
While it was never said, the Microsoft engineers seemed to completely understand and never pushed back against my refusal to a) install crapware and b) not take on work that wasn’t mine.
Not using teams: win win.
I would regularly refuse to install teams at the meetings, using teams in-browser only.
I tried to do this for a safety meeting, Teams is also broken in browsers. I'm not sure if intentional or incompetence.
How about intentional incompetence
To be fair, this is barely a feature. If you are on WIFI anyone that really cares knows where you are already
Exactly. I already don't use the work wifi because they don't need to know how much I use Lemmy while at work.
No worries, I use Linux for work and privately :)
The users aren't the customers. The customers are the users' bosses.
And or some random dude in procurement.
This is illegal in Norway :)
And Germany.
Before Teams when Evilcorp was using Skype for business the app would update our location within the building.
I was gonna use teams for a few groups of people, but fuck this noise. What are the best alternatives? Something like slack or discord but those have their issues too
Try Stoat, or Matrix.
There are tons of alternatives. As for how good they are I have no idea. It feels like every other day a new discord alternative is highlighted here. But as of now I don't believe there's any drop in replacement for discord/teams, but that is not to say you shouldn't seek out something that is good enough.
The closest drop in replacement for discord is fluxer, when his servers aren't being overwhelmed that is.
Teams can be worse?
You’re doubting Microsoft’s ability to make a product worse?
No, they have shown again and again, that they are capable of the impossible, if it comes to making things worse.
But still, we are talking Teams.
"Scientist invents new, even smellier, dog poo."
Just add more rotting eggs.
Oh!
There have been teams at Microsoft making everything worse since 1998. Why is this news?
Productivity boosters and surveillance go hand in hand.
"Tenant admins will decide whether to enable it and require end-users to opt-in."
If you require someone to opt-in, they're no longer "opting in"
But you clicked the terms and conditions popup, so you are our slave now.
So glad I only use Teams in a browser, fuck this bullshit.
Don't install Teams.
You can't even install it on Linux, they killed the native app years ago and now tell you to use the browser version
And then every link asks if you want to open in app, three extra clicks but worth it
Teams comes pre installed with windows these days.
I recommend KDE Plasma on any linux distribution that comes with it for people interested in recovering their digital sovereignty.
There is a difference betwen the version for corporate (MS365 Business) and the consumer version.
Yes, they have the same name.
Yes, it's confusing.