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God demands equal justice!

If they are already out of the womb AND not white? Then it's legitimate defense because they are terrorists.

Hmm? That's not "murder", murder is obviously not allowed? That's "defense". Their Jesus talked a lot about how important that was, just a minute lemme go find it...

That it is a monetary fine is really crucial as one of two ways of establishing that the Mosaic law that Christians leverage for their legalism does not consider an unborn fetus a person.

First, as noted, the fine for a miscarriage is monetary only if no harm comes to the woman. If the woman is hurt, the Mosaic concept of reciprocal justice (eye for eye, etc), which was likely borrowed from the code of Hammurabi, kicks in. The death of an unborn fetus has no reciprocal punishment because that form of justice applies to people.

The second way of establishing that an unborn fetus is not considered a person in the hebrew bible is right in the second version of the creation story in Genesis 2:7

then the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being (emphasis mine)

So here first, and in various other places in the bible (and in the broader Greco-Roman culture in which the nascent Christianity would later form), life began at first breath.

I believe the new testament also makes it pretty clear that it's not up to the followers to dole out God's justice. Something something turn the other cheek and something something let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Also pretty fucking arrogant to claim to speak on behalf of a diety. And pretty fucking stupid to believe anyone claiming such.

Please be aware that those are common misrepresentations of those texts popularised by the NIV translation.

Many translations show Exodus 21 demands life for life and a fine if the child survives but suffers injury. The NIV is one of several exceptions (although probably the most popular one) that instead translates it as a fine for a miscarriage (the original NASB also said this, but the 1995 revision corrected it).

Numbers 5 is a religious test and requires God to enact punishment. The "potion" has no abortifacient components and commentaries suggest that the punishment was infertility. The NIV is again an exception here suggesting miscarriage when most other translations (eg. NKJV, NASB, RSV, ESV, Amplified, Young's Literal, etc.) do not.

By all means call out their misuse of the Bible or their lack of consistency with it, but please be careful making claims like this -- it just undermines credibility.

God says mandatory abortions apparently, hooo boy, Wes Groggins is sure gonna feel like a dope when he hears!

I just call it anti-choice.

‘Just top being sluts, mkay?’

Exactly, just like the freedom of religion has always been a way to prevent children from learning things!

I'm more enamoured by the last stand when Jesus was arrested.

When the Romans came to arrest Jesus with Malhcus, the high servant of the Jewish High Priest.

Peter drew his sword in defence of Jesus and severs Malhcus ear.

On seeing this Jesus responded 'The cup my father has given me is empty shall we fill it?"

He then put his hand on Malhcus and said "Suffer ye thus" and snapped Malhcus's neck with a sickening crack.

The first part of this reads like a Carlin bit

And one they’re born they become their parent(s) problem.

Yeah, isn’t it something like one in four pregnancies actually makes it to term, naturally?

See, you're approaching this like they have some sort of consistent standard they adhere to. The goal with these kinds of bans isn't to """protect life""" as they say, no no; the goal, as it is, and as it has always been, is to simply punish women for the crime of existing.

To be fair, one of the key ways the American South functions - has always functioned - is by trapping people into remaining there.

The systems (not just formal ones, informal ones are more impactful especially in the South) - have only "improved" to superficial degrees since chattel slavery, and are now granted roughly full permission to finally regress and remove the mask.

The rest of the country wonders "what the fuck is up with the misery, almost chosen to be self-sustaining, in the South? Why would anyone thoughtful stay there, why does it stay so bad, too, why don't they make fixes?".

It's always the systems in place that answer those discordant-seeming human choices, the contradictions.

The American South functions - and always has - by the systematic trapping and exploitation of its populace, to a degree always devastatingly more ugly than mere "modern capitalism".

So. A little grace, due, for those who can't just exit. They're working against ~everything. Personal details I can't relate here, but it's unimportant. The trap is, has always, been evident.

Where you can receive the death penalty for having a miscarriage...

Matthew 5:17 is pretty clear about this:

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Jesus also condoned slavery by making statements like this (Old Testament law is very clear in its support of slavery), and telling people to obey their masters, all the while never once saying a single negative thing about the act of owning other human beings as property. Despite being literally constantly surrounded by slavery.