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Assuming y'all aren't just fucking around, reading the comments here is actually really cool, tangentially interacting with people who have internet stories from well before I was born
I'm just from the dialup era, and I still feel old online a lot of the time, but then someone here is like "yeah, Berners-Lee invented HTTP just to make a website to mock me"
We are of similar eras. I just missed the days of building phreak boxes and it was always a bit of wonder to me.
While it’s harder these days for a litany of reasons I think it’s still in our collective interest to be bearers of stories, old and new, to the neophytes of the current generation.
I guess what I’m saying is, I am in your camp but to my kid’s generation we are still warlocks
So much of the wonder of computers and networks and just.... all of it has been abstracted away
So many people just have phones or tablets as the majority of their computer experience
Get into Lora (meshtastic/core). When I settle into bed I check to see if my solar powered nodes made any friends or if the heltec I keep in the car pinged anything cool.
I did a meetup a few weeks ago and its a cool smattering of younger folks and HAM folks who go wayyyyy back.
People talk about it being useful in an emergency, and sure, but mostly it's just cool.
I got my first "home computer" in the days of the BBS's when there was such a thing as a "long distance call". Internet access was crazy expensive and not for the average geek. Back then it was a bit "underground". There were professionals and there were passionate hobbyists. Most people didn't have or need a computer in their lives. Things changed in the late 90's boom. A cultural shift when suddenly everyone joined in. The geeks were no longer king
When we upgraded from the Atari whatsit box to a 286 it was amazing
I remember ratio FTP sites
(I also remember how to make them look like you're uploading a lot quickly using a 14.4k modem.....by uploading files full of null bytes and using the compression to your advantage.)
And still falling for the bait
Single colour monitors, kids! Single colour monitors!
I'm so sad that I missed out on this era of the internet. I only got online in 2020, just horrible timing. all you older folk were so lucky
The modern internet can be more interesting than the old one ever was once you start to explore it, rather than hanging out on like three websites total.
I was on BBS forums in the '80s.
wasn't usenet fun?
Well not sure about the other poster but the BBSes I used were ones you had to dial into and you were the only one there. Well unless it was a fancy one that had multiple phone lines. I even ran one for a short bit my junior year of high school on my commodore 128 and a 1200 baud modem. Good times. Then I got to college and learned about usenet and IRC. This was like ‘89.
It's surreal to think about how genuinely good Facebook used to be, before they added the algorithm. It made our social lives better instead of replacing them. You could go on Facebook to peruse events in your area, having an idea of who would be there before you went.
Couldn't disagree more.
Prior to fb, there was dedicated forums for the music scene I was in to in my area. Everything was in them. Finding what was on was easy as all the promotors used them.
Then fb came along, the forums slowly faded and finding events became unreliable in fb's chaotic algorithm bullshit. Now some things are not on it, some are insta only etc.
Fuck META.
I like how they specified before the algorithm and you cite the algorithm for why you disliked it
Discord is (unfortunately) filling the gap now. Why have a bbs when you can have a shitty chat platform with shitty search and conversations that are impossible to track?
rofl tell me you do not understand how FB got started without telling me...
That shit's been a privacy nightmare from the beginning.
Zuck has been selling personal info from basically day 1. He's been abusing people since day 1.
The day people realize convenience does not equal good is the day humanity grows up from a petulant child to a moronic teenager... Too bad it's looking more and more like we'll never make it past, "petulant child".
I watched the Adam Friedland interview with Clavicular yesterday, and Gen Z is so fucked. I realize not all of them are like that, but that someone like Clavicular has gained any traction is a sign the youth is not alright.
I hadn’t heard of this person so I asked my 15 year old son if he knew about him or if his friends were in his orbit.
“He’s a loser. No.”
I appreciate you for giving me this intense moment of connection with my boy
Haha. You’ve got a good son.
I don’t think many of them actually take Clavicular seriously. Gen Z culture seems to be all about “inside jokes” that everyone knows and self-aware lolcows. It’s annoying, and I’m glad they all had their teens stolen by Covid. They deserve it.
You know, I bet Covid really is to blame for this nonsense. Some developmental delay type thing.
I got a Gmail account back when you had to get an invite.
Drops mic
I sold gmail invitations on ebay.
Oh, you think the darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark.
Do not cite the deep magic to me witch, I was there when it was written.
fuck. i can't remember my icq # anymore. it was 6 digits and started with an 8.
867530
Nein!
That I could remember
Mine was somewhere in the 2 millions. I probably still have it saved somewhere.
I've known adventures, seen places you people will never see, I've been on university work terminals and back... frontiers! I've stood on the back deck of Usenet bound for Mosaic with sweat in my eyes watching Netscape Navigator fight on the shoulder of the internet... I've felt wind in my hair, riding Lynx off of monochrome monitors and seen usegroups burn like a match and disappear. I've seen it, felt it...!
Tom and I go way back. He's never so much as given you that over the shoulder smile.
