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[–] DarylInCanada@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

In 2014-16, China held $1.3 trillion in US debt. Now it owns less than half of that. Japan owns more American dept than the Chinese do currently. They have leveraged their debt in a controlled manner, to offset the effects of US tariffs. Now instead of getting American dollars for goods that China sells to the US, they just get the American dollars without having to sell anything. Just collect on the bonds as they come due. It is a trick I am sure the other countries, including Canada, have up their sleeves.

Whatever the American population pays in the tariffs (sales tax) on imported goods, the more they have to borrow from the rest of the world. It might LOOK like a windfall for the American treasury, but in the end the American economy just isn't generating the manufacturing wealth to pay the tax. Eventually, the American companies will revolt against this tax, and demand compensation. That will be even more money the US treasury will have to borrow.

[–] DarylInCanada@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

For all the posters worried about American default on bond payments, please note that Americans still own around 75% of the American debt.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago
[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

US has been borrowing $50B a week for the last 5 months. You have to be an idiot to buy into that scheme.

https://news.y0.exchange/article/us-borrows-50b-weekly-for-5-months-cbo-reports-unsustainable-debt

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago

Does seem weird to keep propping up a country that's actively fighting a trade war with us, encouraging separatism in Alberta, and openly discussing an invasion.

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We sold our gold in 2018 to buy US bonds. We are idiots.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

March 2022 he said it, which would be a 45k. So a 55% profit versus the bonds that lost value due to rising interest rates.

The US then used its strong dollar to levy tariffs against the globe.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Why are we buying debt of a country headed into a recession/depression and massive inflation?

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[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Friendly reminder (June 2025 article): Nearly half of national public pension plan is invested in U.S. — and only 12% in Canada

There has been no official update or scrutiny on this close to trillion dollar investment almost a year later, which is hundreds of billions in the US. This is just one of the Canadian government's investments that is heavily invested into the US. Hard to say that Canada is doing any actions rather than just talking with a big mouth?

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

This could be the result of a smart, passive approach. I'd be hesitant to let anyone with strong ideological investment strategies run our pension.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Right, you'd think dumping US bonds and investing in Canada would be the obvious move here.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 3 days ago
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