Restaurant tries to scam customers, yet they still give a 20% tip?
this post was submitted on 10 Aug 2025
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Pretty sure the waitress wasn't the one who fucked with the register. Probably the restaurant trying to ensure they don't have to pay the difference if the tips come up short and leave the staff below minimum wage.
I feels like reasoning like this is why it would never end.
You think place like that distributes tips honestly?
This may be anecdotal, but I ran into this exact same issue a few weeks ago. The suggested 20% was significantly higher than the 20% on the bill. It took me a little bit to figure out, but we were at the restaurant for a steak special and happy hour. The 20% tip was for the non-special price. For example, the steak and two sides special was $18, but the normal price was $28. The drinks were $5 but the normal price was $8. So the suggested tip was 20% of $36, not 20% of $23. These aren't the exact numbers, and there were two of us, but you get the idea. The POS/Tip suggestion is setup so the servers don't get the shit end of the stick when the restaurant is doing a deal/special. I'm not sure I fully agree with it, and I have my own beef with tipping culture in general, but I'm just looking to explain what might be seen in OP's photo.
Understood, but not my problem. If it says 20%, it should be 20%. For trying to pull shit like this it is going to be a 0% from me.
Guaranteed theres more to the story like this was calculated before a comp or some other way this is being calculated.
Wait so you get scammed but still give 20% tips? This would be an automatic 0% tip
You think the wait staff setup the machine to do math wrong?
Yeah, what's likely happening here is that the tip numbers were calculated off the subtotal intentionally. So say you buy a "happy hour" drink and it is $3 instead of $6, they tip is calculated before the "discount".
Their machine could have actually been wrong, but using a total before discounts seems more likely.
On the surface, I can understand this. It’s not the server’s fault that they got the happy hour rush when everything is 50% off. If anything, they had to work harder because it was busier. Why punish them for that extra work with lower tip calculations? The drinks aren’t any easier or faster to pour just because they’re half off. It should at least be transparent, but I at least understand the reasoning.
What does bug me is when the tip calculations are based on the after-tax total. Fuck that, I’m already getting taxed 10% on this, you don’t need your 18% calculated from that extra 10%.
I don't really follow this reasoning, so a drink cost X but you calculate Y because at other times it costs Y.
So if you go to a cheap restaurant you increase your tip because the restaurant next door has higher prices? The staff in the cheap restaurant works just as hard, maybe harder.
This whole tip thing need to die ASAP. If everybody just stopped tipping staff would get a normal pay or a better paying other job. But if you don't tip, how do you show appreciation?? Well, do you tip your wife when she does something nice for you?? No, so people can show appreciation without money.
Wow! Servers are providing a service of waiting on you when you could have made your own food at home without “tipping” your wife. That comparison is asinine and doesn’t belong in your comment. Vastly different!
And the previous commenter stated just because you got $100 worth of half off drinks so $50, you shouldn’t tip off the $50. Drinks were the same, service was the same, etc. just because you have a discount doesn’t mean you had “discounted” service therefore, should still tip off the TOTAL BEFORE DISCOUNTS!
I agree tipping culture needs to die but in America where I was a teacher for years and now make more money as a server with half the hours shows the broken systems of America. Something has to change and not tipping your server isn’t going to do anything but hurt a fellow human trying to just get by like themselves!
Want change? Go to the govt, create a bill, talk to reps for your state, but stop punishing servers for your selfish beliefs and actions! Don’t like it, don’t go out! Want change, then do it!
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I'll meet you half way, we'll not suggest you pay tips on taxes, but you will pay a $2.99 dining room fee to use our facilities. You can avoid this by doing pick up with a $1.99 convenience fee.
No deal.
*Goes to the place across the street with no BS fees.
Perfect, then I don’t waste my time, table, and food waiting on someone who won’t tip vs someone who will.
I agree if you don’t like it, don’t go there, stop punishing others based off your beliefs.
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I keep getting weird and threating comments/messages and all I have to say to everyone who doesn’t tip…
Watch the moving “Waiting” then get back to me…
You’re a regular ordering $50 worth of food with no tip… lesson, don’t fuck with the people who serve you food. COMMON FUCKING SENSE! Not that I would do that… but it’s clearly an option I have thought about and the more and more he doesn’t tip for service the more and more I am loving the movie, “Waiting”…
Tipping, specifically in the original context of restaurants, I will still do, simply because the government needs to change the minimum wage so that servers are included. They're currently a protected group that is allowed to be paid far less than minimum wage, and they are supposed to make up the difference in tips.
In every other context, wow me and I'll tip you, otherwise, don't expect shit.
If you did your job as you are expected to do, then I don't see why I need to tip.
It was always a dumb idea to pay servers LESS because they got tips. There was a time when tips were mostly cash and you didn't have to claim them as income. But now that advantage is almost completely gone. And we should just end tipping. If you go out and don't like the service then don't go back. Just like it works with any other business.
Thank you! After all the comments and being a server I was starting to feel like I was going crazy!
Like you said, tip your servers accordingly and if not then don’t go the f out! Go through a drive thru instead!
And if you hate the tipping culture then try to change it! Don’t punish the servers for your selfish actions and beliefs for a service rendered! You don’t HAVE to be waited on… you chose that! So don’t choose to not tip that’s an asshole move and if you’re a regular even worse!
This is exactly me. I still tip you all. Even if the food sucked, I'm doing what I can to leave a tip.
I'd add a caveat for bad service, but honestly, I don't think I've met a server yet that deserved to not be tipped (aka, paid fairly for their service).
If you suck at your job, you won't have it very long. Server or not. Let's let the system work the way it does for everyone else. Ban below minimum wage wages for servers.
Once that happens, I can happily never tip again.
Love you!! You are my perfect customer! But I agree, I always tip 10% and 20% for great service! I always tip even on take out since hosts have to ensure orders and box it up accordingly. But seriously, I agree, I live in MN so us servers are lucky but still, the tipping culture is out of control! You tip for take out and dine in… I shouldn’t have to tip a person during a fast food order which EVERYTHING IS ALREADY FUCKING COOKED! You ain’t doing shit but warming up that shitty food (I don’t eat). Why would anyone fucking tip?! American tipping culture is going to shit since no one is getting paid the wages entitled..
America is trash and can’t even get to 250 years while other countries have 1000s under their belts! It’s fucking embarrassing!
Fast food workers generally get minimum wage at least, so tipping shouldn't be required or expected there. It's mostly servers at restaurants as far as I know.
When I know that the workers are paid less than minimum, I'm pretty much always tipping unless you're grossly negligent or you are actively mean. You can have a bad disposition, that's fine. Everyone has bad days, I'll still tip as long as you're not directing your unhappiness at me. I just got here, I'm not the thing you're mad at, so please don't treat me like I am.
If tipping goes away tomorrow, I'll be happy. Not just for my pocket book and the pain and frustration I feel staring at menus trying to up all the prices by 15-20% so I know what I'll actually be paying, but for the workers actually making a decent wage.
We also need to address minimum wage issues, but that's another matter entirely and affects a much larger group of people.
I agree, in MN we get paid pretty well as servers but agree some restaurants do this MOSTLY CHAINS, I am in a mom and pop and they haven’t raised prices in 2 years even after the fiasco of egg prices going crazy and then Drumpf saying he’ll bring him down which never happened. We never raise our prices… so people should also make that realization.
But thank you for understanding the fucked up system of tipping, I quit my teaching job because I make almost 3X as much with 1/2 the hours and that’s sickening! And then you have the servers complaining about how other people have better tips, it’s so much drama!
But I thank you for tipping honestly, a lot of people do not understand the importance of take out or serving in a restaurant and if they don’t get it… they need to watch the moving “Waiting”. Not saying I would do anything in that moving but others def will… so basically, don’t fuck with the people who serve you food…
It was probably the percentage BEFORE a discount was given… just because a discount happens doesn’t mean you should skip out on the tip of a server… example, you have a $100 bill with a $50 discount, you DO NOT TIP ON THE DISCOUNT, you tip on THE TOTAL bill of service. You still all got the same amount of food and service, so stop with this short tipping staff!
Can’t afford a tip then don’t fucking go to a damn restaurant! I make more as a server with half the hours than when I was a full time teacher! America is fucked but don’t fuck fellow people over because you can’t comprehend the tipping culture and are a cheap POS!
The problem is that because of the way it's written, it ends up being misleading.
If there was a simple disclaimer like "tip based on non-discounted prices", it would've been fine.
I agree but also, that’s common sense… just because your bill was discounted doesn’t mean you discount my tip, you still got all the food and great service, so wtf! I don’t get how people are still confused, tipping in America has been a thing for decades!
Still potentially misleading. If the receipt doesn't say anything about the discount (which is not clear because we can't see what's above the total), then you can't tell. Again, a simple disclaimer should be enough. If there are things like "please open box before eating pizza", then this shouldn't be a problem.
If you're a regular at the place, you might know about the specials. If you just walk in one time and you don't see a label, a receipt like this will be misleading if it doesn't state the discounts and tip bases.
It common sense, tip off TOTAL bill NOT discounted prices, you got the same service and food so… tip accordingly of TRUE amount. It’s not “misleading” it’s a true fact, tip based of total.
Like I said before, you get $100 worth of drinks with a discount of half off so $50, you do NOT tip off $50. You got $100 worth of drinks and services so tip off that! Don’t like it, don’t go out. Don’t agree, then create a bill and call your govt reps, do not punish fellow humans because you “don’t agree”. We are all just trying to live. If anything, make your own food at home and there you go, NO TIP NEEDED… but no, you came out to get waited on therefore, provide tips accordingly, we are not just at the restaurant for pleasure…
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