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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Nah it sucked. I was on it. It was just lemmy but with less features and with less content. It was dead the moment it started because it did nothing.

I don't understand how they even think it could succeed.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I didn't even know it relaunched. They should have advertised it better. I would have checked it out had I known it was coming back.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

MySpace reboot vs Spotify.

[–] Sat@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I tried using it and was kinda hopeful, but NSFW was against their TOS which is a no go.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not on my wholesome christian server /s

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 3 hours ago

*Holesome 😏

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 138 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (4 children)

When the Digg beta launched, we immediately noticed posts from SEO spammers noting that Digg still carried meaningful Google link authority. Within hours, we got a taste of what we'd only heard rumors about. The internet is now populated, in meaningful part, by sophisticated AI agents and automated accounts. We knew bots were part of the landscape, but we didn't appreciate the scale, sophistication, or speed at which they'd find us. We banned tens of thousands of accounts. We deployed internal tooling and industry-standard external vendors. None of it was enough.

I love how the SEO industry pretends they’re anything but a caustic cancer leeching off literally everything.

“Oh, but discoverability of small business!” Yeah… I’d punch you if I saw you, SEO jerks. The Futurama movie was right.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 22 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

SEO is like CGI. What you don't like is bad CGI. What you don't notice is good CGI.

There's many abuses of SEO and many ways it's used quite badly. What you don't notice is when it's done very well. It's one reason that these days, a large part of the time the thing you search for is on the first page of results. If you know how to search well, SEO helps you find the things you're searching for.

I know people will disagree and probably ridicule, but i'm not talking out my ass. I've been on the internet since 1994, and I remember a time when finding things involved sometimes scouring mange many pages of search results. SEO is one reason that's less common. And I will say that search did indeed reach a peak and has come down a bit from there thanks to AI bullshit and things like Google's bullshit about returning ads and prioritizing revenue over usefulness. But it's still better with SEO than it was without.

Add that to the fact that best practices for SEO has of course changed over the years in ways that have also gotten better for end users in finding content.

And this is again not a full defense of SEO at all. There are many MANY bad actors out there trying to abuse SEO. But, again, that's the bad SEO that you notice, not the good SEO that you do not notice. So THAT part of the "SEO industry" is absolutely caustic cancer, sure.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

No, you've got a point... Actually you're right. To an extent.

I should have qualified my post.

But I'd argue the "bad" part of SEO is just too tempting. It's clearly winning out, across the entire internet, unless you can look at me with a straight face and say "Google search is fine." Or that discoverability of genuine services is fine. It's definitely not; it's a miracle any legitimate business is surviving from web search anymore, amongts the sea of attention scams and corporate behemoths.

In other words, the I feel like the "honeymoon" where we could trust SEO to happen ethically is now behind us.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

SEO is one reason that's less common.

No it isn't. SEO is about gaming the search engines to place their data ahead of everything whether relevant or not.

Yahoo was fantastic in it's time because it was human curated. No SEO could bullshit a person reading the page and categorizing it.

Google was fantastic at the start because SEO couldn't game the system. Google was famous in the early days for maintaining quality by keeping their algorithms secret and constantly changing so that SEO couldn't break their search.

I'm speaking as someone who was first on the Internet in the 80's.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Which Futurama movie so I can rewatch?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

The majority of "new users" was bots twenty years ago. How was this news to these chuckleheads?

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 28 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I mean it's worth saying that the new bots are kind of a different league to the old bots.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 hours ago

But now bots pass captcha and use a real browser. So… it’s not easy removing them.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 8 points 7 hours ago

And the majority of posts were mrbabyman.

Dead internet ~~theory~~ reality

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 27 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Their tolerance of racism and bigotry was why I left

It seemed like every shitty person wanted to make it a far-right safe place

I'm glad it failed

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I had interactions with a few, and they were very much the typical, stupid, bigoted yank

[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 25 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

People are naive to think there aren’t also thousands of bots here in the Fediverse.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

If there are, theyre not very active

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 36 points 6 hours ago (7 children)

The only thing keeping the bot population low here is that there just aren't enough people here to be worth it yet. If the Fediverse grows they'll come in greater numbers.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 11 points 4 hours ago

It's also not as SEO-gameable (since fediverse domains are inherently more fragmented than a large, high-reputation domain for SEO algorithms to rank highly), and doesn't have an inherent monetization system (unlike platforms like Twitter with their ad payouts), so that's a couple more things going for us.

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[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 12 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't AI part of their "selling" point?

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

Right? Weren’t they making some AI podcast or something as well?

None of that sounded good.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If it was, it was a bad stratagy.

AI is the only industry that is somehow nonprofitable, without customers, and yet also propping up the economy right now.

Just waiting for this stupid bubble to pop

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, reddit only got big because Digg made some very stupid moves before, so ... pretty on brand

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 7 points 7 hours ago

One of the complaints I had about the place was how AI positive it was, I guess that explains it.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Man. I liked Digg. Not as much as Lemmy, but I liked it.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I liked Digg right up until they folded like a cheap suit over the HD DVD decryption key.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 hours ago

folded like a cheap suit

Funnier because of all the T-shirts printed with that key on them.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The what? I'm ignorant here.

[–] HeyMrDeadMan@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

Going off memory here, but I'm pretty sure someone posted the master decryption key, without any context. Just, '123cf7'...etc.

Without any context, it's just a random string of letters and numbers. Absolutely free speech. With context, it's a violation of the DMCA.

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There were entire communities popping up dedicated to SEO and advertising. A lot of the spam would happen during the US night time, so they’d have to wake up every morning to sweeping away all the crap. Really curious on how they intend to handle the bots.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I was curious how they planned to monetize, but some questions are pointless to ask - all you'll get are the responses prepared for maximal PR value...

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think I had read somewhere that they would eventually have ads, but that may have just been member speculation.

Maybe if they go down the Apollo route they could have some sub tiers, but we’ll see.

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