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I would also consider encryption to be a 2nd Amendment issue as well, on account of it being considered a munition back in the 90's or thereabouts. IMO, it is important for everyone to have arms, be it cryptographic or martial.
Is GNU Linux actually an operating system? Yeah stupid question but since it's not a monolithic OS and it's made from lots of programmes you can change in between. Also is Arch or Gentoo system providers? They don't actually provide the OS but instructions on how to install it and a tool for that.
Based on what I've read of the California law (AFAIK, the Colorado bill is nearly identical), Microsoft, Google, Apple, and vendors of other closed-source commercial software would be considered OS providers. However, vendors of FOSS OSes cannot control what changes the local administrator chooses to make to the OS. The "OS Provider" is the responsible party under these bills; for FOSS software, that person is the end user installing the OS, and not an upstream vendor.
Backup plan: have age verification included with explicit instructions on how to disable it as a warning to not do so.
The Vine-Glo prohibition tactic: "Do not place the liquid in this jug and put it away in the cupboard for twenty-one days, because then it would turn into wine."
It would be determined that the OS vendor who included such instructions was not making a "good faith effort" to comply with the law.
IF AN OPERATING SYSTEM PROVIDER OR A COVERED APPLICATION STORE MAKES A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO COMPLY WITH THIS ARTICLE 30 , TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY AND ANY REASONABLE TECHNICAL LIMITATIONS OR OUTAGES , THE OPERATING SYSTEM PROVIDER OR COVERED APPLICATION STORE IS NOT LIABLE FOR AN ERRONEOUS AGE SIGNAL INDICATING A USER'S AGE RANGE OR FOR CONDUCT BY A DEVELOPER THAT RECEIVES AN AGE SIGNAL INDICATING A USER'S AGE RANGE .
Without a "good faith effort" to comply, they become liable for "intentional" violation, which is a $7500 penalty.
How would they even both to do this? It is open source, just make the first step of set up to send verification to localhost? Yeah I checked with myself and verified I am who I am, what are you going to do about it? Force me to send it to a specific URL? Nah I'll just check the source code to whatever I want.
What I was reading was that it would be some sort of local-only API that would set an age bracket on user creation and allow applications to query it. It wouldn't go out "directly" to the internet. Though who's to say what the applications and shit would do with the information once they have it.
How about instead of fighting to be excluded, fight against the very concept of age verification?
That's how you fight it. Carve out legal exceptions that others can follow
What have you done so far? Anything we can help with?
And you, what have you done?
Me, I’m just mad, mad bunny…
Seriously, what can we do? What can be done, that would bave a meaningful, positive impact?
Contact your representatives, donate to the EFF, etc.
Up and downvote things on Lemmy, or leaving a comment can really help too.
I think it's funny that the people who disagree with you downvote you despite feeling that downvotes are meaningless, there's something delightfully ironic about that
edit: this comment being downvoted is also very funny
I only use open source rifles.
Yeah, awesome for them to try, but an exercise.in futility as people no longer being able to control their own computer is kind of the point
What does this have to do with 2nd Amendment rights???
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
Computers could be argued as arms for a well regulated militia. It doesn't have to be a firearm specifically and with how much the US government has legally argued that computers are needed for war, they are technically an armament to the US government.
If an 2nd American Civil War happens, I think people would be contributing their devices to DDOS attacks against ICE and other Regime forces. Computers really are weapons, if the need arises.
Because if I have to go back to using Windows, I'm going to put a gun in my mouth?
Edit: in case anyone gets concerned, this is hyperbole.
Mmmmm, Hoppe's No. 9!
Ah yes now it makes sense! ;-)
I assume rebellion
Not a lot, even the argument in https://xkcd.com/504/ doesn't really work for this. First Amendment meanwhile…
Such an exception is important, but won't fix a fundamentally broken law.
The definition of the law is overly broad. Basically any network-connected device falls under this regulation. Like e.g. the DC/AC converter for my solar panels.
First amendment, but close enough
No, I think he really does mean Second Amendment. Remember how encryption used to be prohibited from export because it was classified as a munition?
We need Free Software for self-defense against government invasion of our privacy.
I'll acquiesce, I don't fully agree this very second but I'm 90% sure I can be convinced so I'll just give it to ya lol