Americans aren't wary of EVs we can't fucking afford the overpriced shit that's sold here.
this post was submitted on 19 Mar 2026
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Exactly, we have two vehicles. One is 11 years old the other is 23 years old.
Bought an old slum lord house for 18K. Doing all the repair work ourselves. Couldn't afford 1K a month for rent on an apartment
A new car at 900 plus per month isn't in the books at all. Plus when it's 10 years old it will only get 1/4 of the original mileage on a single charge.
Used EVs are remarkably cheap. The problem is that it still effectively requires you to be able to charge at home, which is not common on cheaper housing.
Yeah, looked at one for around 5K. Good for about 30 miles because the battery pack needs replaced which increases the price by nearly triple.
I guess but the cheapest new EV is less than the most popular new car in my area.
I mean.. The main reason is people don't have money for a new car. Also the electrical infrastructure in this country is not ready for everyone to go electric.
The gas and oil industries have paid TONS of money to keep people locked into gas vehicles.
Once again, the rich continue to fuck the rest of us.
Also the electrical infrastructure in this country is not ready for everyone to go electric.
You're repeating big oil talking points. We improve the grid all the time, we can continue to do it. Sure if all cars were magically converted into EVs tomorrow we would have big problems, but that's not how the real world works.
If the grid actually was about to fall over because of a few more EVs, these datacenters spinning up all over the place would be even bigger disasters than they already are.
Got news for you with the Datacenters…
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And also don't forget charging stations don't exist, and vast majority of people who live in higher density housing have zero way of charging at home.
My apartment building has parking spots with “EV” painted on them but no chargers.
Same feeling like when they painted bicycle lanes on the side of roads and said they built such and such km of bicycle lanes.
Its actually crazy how little is done for energy efficeny and EV preparedness for high denisty housing in the midwest US to me. There is just next to no incentive for most places because 1 they dont pay for electricty and 2 they dont have to tell potential tenets just how bad the bills tend to be in a place.
The EV preparedness is mostly just the lack of rent seeking potential vs any effort most rental companies are willing to put in.
Theoretically those bastards could be upselling power from meters they installed on the property and be making money from it, but that would require running a buisness with skilled and valued workers and not a constant revolving door of underpaid under trained employees.
The big appeal of EVs isn't the public charging ports. They are cheaper than gas but not cheap.
Its the outlet at your house. And no despite what marketing says you do NOT have to install a 240V socket. Your existing one is fine for the vast majority of people charging overnight. If you're commuting to/from work, chances are that non-100% charge will serve just fine.
If you don't have a way to charge at home though it can be harder to recommend.
Level 1 charging can work for a lot of people, but it ends up needing a lot more mental energy. You have to more carefully calculate capacity/range, daily needs, charging speeds, variances, and unexpected needs. The end result being that it's not a great experience.
Level 2, even at the slowest speeds, are enough that you can fully recharge most vehicles overnight. And you have enough capacity to last through the day unless you are a super commuter or drive professionally.
If our grid can take on data centers, we can handle EVs my dude.
That's the beauty of it, now that the oil-ligarchy has defunded alternate energy and removed tax incentives, the companies responded by reversing 2 decades of development and finally getting hybrids and evs common in us automakers.
Now that electric is off the menu, and protectionism is back on, it means the places those cars are being made and made well--like china--americans simply won't even know about them or be able to buy them as they'll be tariffed out of existence.
Triple win for the oil-ligarchy
Almost like it was planned - as soon as EVs are off the menu, start a war and send gas prices soaring. Get ready for another round of record quarterly profits - just like in GWII.
I mean, I’ve wanted one for awhile, just haven’t had money. Still don’t, but haven’t as well.
I’ve got an outlet in the garage in the perfect spot, too.
Are we? I'm looking to buy a car and I think gas cars make the most sense even now, because the change in the price of gas seems like a relatively small part of the cost of car ownership. A one dollar increase in the cost of a gallon of gas works out to about $300 a year in extra costs for me. That's not enough to tip the balance towards an electric car.
For reference, I'm comparing a Hyundai Elantra N to a Tesla Model 3 - the Hyundai costs as much as the base Tesla at about $36.5k, but to get similar performance you'd need the $42.5k premium Tesla, and that price difference pays for enough gas to go 40,000 miles.
That’s not enough to tip the balance towards an electric car.
EV does not need oil or filter changes, brakes last forever, and it has many less wear parts to break, like the transmission.
Trust me, the eN is way more fun to drive. Teslas are sterile, even the Plaid models.
With the stupid worthless data centers and opportunity to shareholder price gouge electric isn’t going to be any better.
With the stupid worthless data centers and opportunity to shareholder price gouge electric isn’t going to be any better.
I just want to point out one thing.
It's pretty difficult to on one hand be like "we should all adopt electric cars" and on the other hand also be "against the state or private entities tracking the citizenry". If you don't know that all the new cars including the new electric vehicles are spying on their occupants you haven't been paying attention.
On top of that a lot of Americans are realizing they can't afford a vehicle at all. The subsidies for buying a new electric vehicle have gone up in smoke. So people who already can't afford a vehicle aren't gonna be able to buy an EV without the tax credits.
Combine the two problems and you're just not going to get the results you want.
You might be able to sell me on a dumb electric vehicle. No manufacturer is selling that in the US, and even if they did try, the safety features required by law make it basically an impossibility.
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