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A study conducted in Germany found that men with higher IQs are less inclined to traditional values, but the lead author, psychologist and intelligence researcher Maximilian Krolo of Saarland University, said the researchers did not find these differences among women.

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[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Solid ice colder than liquid water, study finds."

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

Proof that academia cultures the left, neglecting real science like the fact that you can pressurize water into ice while preserving its warmth!

~ a conservative somewhere

[–] joan@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

"My social media isn't an echo chamber"

A fact so obvious and apparent only a German would even bother asking.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

In my opinion IQ measures only a narrow field of the brains capabilities. Namely logical thinking.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago
[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think being knowledgeable leads someone to be more liberal than they otherwise would have been. Less inclined to fear the outgroup and fear change. This is why a college degree is so associated with liberalism. I don't know how well that corresponds to IQ, which itself is kind of wishy washy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

being knowledgeable

IQ has nothing to do with being knowledgeable. Shit headlines like this play into the exact same eugenics theory of humanity that gooners like RFK Jr and Peter Thiel have been pushing.

I don’t know how well that corresponds to IQ

It's quite literally just a measurement of one's pattern recognition speed. Has nothing to do with your politics.

Case in point, Christopher Langan, who regularly outperformed on these cognition tests, was a total nerd on trivia, and ended up becoming a forest ranger because he had a perpetual chip on his shoulder. Once his reputation blew up as someone who could ace cognitive tests, he leveraged that into becoming a right-wing grifter.

The guy is a total piece of shit who tests well. Go out to any of the Ivy League universities and you'll find this kind of person in spades. Silicon Valley, the DC Beltway, Wall Street, Raytheon Acres, the Florida Real Estate scene - very intelligent assholes are a dime a dozen. FFS, we built our rocket labs on Nazi scientists. No shortage of right-wingers in the "High IQ" space.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah, being knowledgeable is quantifiable. IQ is wishy washy and easily misused

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 132 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

from a logical standpoint, conservatism is lacking any kind of sense or logic. I think it's safe to assume that, in order to follow blindly an idea that crumbles as soon as you critically think about it, you have to lack the ability to critically think.

What I think tho is that it's empathy what we should link to intelligence (or whatever you want to call the skill set that allows you to question and critizice everything).

Conservatism is a lack of empathy (which comes with a lack of said "intelligence").

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

it would be easy to fake. its not hard know how to be a good person in theyre given socity, manipulator do it all the time. also are you going to define morality for all of humanity for this test? yah good luck with that lol.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

There are very few actual republicans or conservatives now. What you are describing is not historical conservatism either socially or fiscally.

[–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

I also believe this, and want to add that conservatism is mostly a combination of ideals based on grievances and a complete lack of critical thinking thinking as well.

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[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago
[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 60 points 1 week ago (8 children)

To be liberal requires empathy. A deep understanding of others and their situations and the knowledge that your own personal needs dont always automatically outweigh others.

Empathy requires emotional intelligence.

Its easy to see it in action. Pick a problem and then look at the solutions offered by populist politicians to solve them.

In the UK one of the problems is immigrants arriving on small boats. The populist "solution"? "STOP THE BOATS" shouted far and wide.

How we ask?

And then silence. And when pressed, the likes of Reform offer more soundbites like "use the navy" and "send them back" but without any substance.

Meanwhile Liberal politicians offer actual solutions that are not sound bites, and they won't work quickly. Things like working with the French to find and arrest the people organising it. Helping to improve facilities in France and the rest of Europe so the UK isn't seen as somewhere an immigrant needs to travel to.

Basically, intelligent people aren't fooled by meaningless slogans. Morons aren't able to understand that deep problems require deep and complex solutions.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

It is not just a question of emotional intelligence. As an autistic person, this is really a weak point in my statistics.

I'm simply not stupid enough to fall for their ideas.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

yes. the whole "liberals require empathy" thing comes of as moral masturbation to me. like everyone else is incapable of it or something.

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[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Aaah a feel-good article for leftists.

Plenty of dumb dumbs among us, don't worry.

[–] AnalogHole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago (10 children)

There's a reason universities lean heavily left

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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Of course. There's a reason why conservatives don't want the masses educated. Because they'd see how much they're getting fucked by said conservatives.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 39 points 1 week ago

Higher IQ is also associated with higher Critical Thinking Skills, which help you recognize and avoid conservative propaganda.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 week ago (11 children)

IQ testing is pseudoscience. It's one of the preferred methods of the far right to try to differentiate between races for that very reason. Pseudoscience is a lot more malleable for their purposes than the settled science that says race doesn't exist biologically.

Having a "high IQ" is only proof that you're good at IQ tests.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

its better then getting a low score on a IQ test.

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[–] Azrael@reddthat.com 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"The current study showed that high intelligence does not, as one might assume, lead to radical political positions. Instead, highly gifted adults are on average just as politically diverse and moderate as the rest of the population."

Well that headline is...misleading.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Imagining a world where the headlines aren't click bait and the articles are well researched. One day...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

You'd need media that wasn't predicated on advertising revenues.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck IQ. Literally political stance is a better measurement of intelligence.

Wait...

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is because reality itself has a strong left-leaning bias, and intelligence makes you encounter that a lot more as you interact with reality.

Sure, there are highly intelligent right-wingers, but intelligence only gives you the cognitive tools to discover reality, it doesn’t force you to use them. Just because a person is intelligent doesn’t mean they can’t slide off into wharrderp fantasy land.

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[–] Sisyphe@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Here's a link to the study, so you don't have to read an article about an article.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289625000893

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I think there's a litany of problems with this assertion.

Firstly the sample size is 150 people, too small for any meaningful conclusion.

Secondly the article doesn't make any attempt at a causal relationship. Are men with higher IQs more progressive because they have higher IQs? Or is there some other reason.

One hypothesis is simply that students in the 80s and 90s who were more comfortable with STEM work (and IQ tests) were more likely to go on to tertiary academic studies, and we know that there is a causal relationship between academic achievement and progressive politics. Given the era, perhaps women were less likely to follow that path than their male counterparts.

I'm not saying that's the answer, it's just an example of how statistical links aren't always helpful.

Edit: most of what I said is really dumb and wrong!

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

150 is actually appropriate for this type of study and effect size.

Especially considering it was a longitudinal study that spanned 35 years. Impressive they could maintain that many participants.

Sure we could always use bigger samples but 150 is really good actually.

Secondly.

Causal research is a whole other thing.

Correlation research comes first. Once that's established , Then causal research.

Causal research is much more different to conduct for social factors like this. Nearly impossible actually.

So don't be surprised when such research doesn't exist.

You can't manipulate someone's IQ. And you can't really manipulate their political leaning.

There is no real way to run an experimental study to find out causes.

Best you can do is find more correlations.

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[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

In before everyone trashes IQ for being racist and pointless.

And I'm not saying it isn't ethnocentric and a bit arbitrary. But walk around a Mensa meeting and you'll see things in common.

Mostly that everyone is really socially inept if not outright problematic.

But 90% liberal, yeah.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mensa is not a good selector. First off it not that high of an IQ requirement, second, they have to want to join Mensa. Real brilliant folks have little interest.

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Men with high net worth are more conservative leaning?! Isn't that weird. Learning about the world builds compassion, while feeding your own greed breeds self interest. So weird. Remind me why we ask the opinions of rich people again?

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[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

Traditional values are a crutch for the intellectually unambitious and a cudgel for the ambitious.

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