Good lord, what’s wrong with the other two?
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American here, I don't trust US firms with data
I trust they are selling my data to make money, even when I ask them not to.
I trust that they'll be complete push-overs when it comes to law enforcement and agency data requests without a warrant.
Outside of moving data overseas, away from 5/9-eyes, I'm having a bad time figuring out how to obtain cryptographic control over my data within existing services. This leaves me to just upload crypto blobs everywhere with no real services to support it, or buying my own hardware and co-locating it myself.
Don't kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it's going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.
I'm American and don't trust U.S. firms with data.
To be clear, I also don't trust Chinese firms.
Good, also don't trust european firms either, don't trust any corporations with your data.
It's amazing how many people cheer for corporations. There's few consistents in the world but a big one is corporations are not your friend.
If we’re being real I don’t really trust anyone with my data.
Send it to me. I'll keep it safe. I promise not to share it.
Still a better deal than what all big tech firms offer.
One year later: I'm changing the conditions of my promise.
Still better. You'll have to promise to share with 180 partners from the get go just to be close to the same level as them. And then do some chicanery.
How many out of ten Europeans use Meta or TikTok?
You can use something and still not trust something.
What point are you trying to make?
I mean, this was my first question as well. If you say "I don't trust that guy with my kids," then you also should not be leaving that person alone with your kids. If you do leave him alone with your kids, people aren't wrong to say that you very much are trusting him with them.
So I think it's legitimate to ask whether they mean they "don't trust Chinese and US firms with their data" in the sense that they do not provide their data to them, or just in the sense that they do give them a bunch of data, and then feel misgivings about it.
Which, y'know, it's something you have a limited degree of control over, certainly, and we don't want to fall too much into blaming the victims. But as someone who didn't manage to actually get off Facebook until last year, I definitely felt for a long while before that like I was complicit in my own exploitation, and contributing to a societal problem. I think even the people still there know that cancelling it is the low-hanging fruit in terms of reducing the amount of data in the hands of dubious firms.
I can spell it out for you:
People recognize the problem, but don't take appropriate action.
To be fair, I don't trust European companies with it either. As the saying goes: "Where there's a trough, there will be pigs." Want to keep your data safe? Keep it.
Yes, bit wary of these current trends that try to paint Europe as this holier than thou place where everyone only thinks about the polar bears and UBI, when the truth is we have plenty of capitalist sharks in our ranks that would be happy burning it all down for the next quarterly results.
To be fair, we have the GDPR in Europe, which puts people at ease. However, this could be weakened or rid of entirely in order for the EU to become more "competitive" some day. Even the climate change goals of the EU has already been weakened so that we could catch up to the AI race. As sad as it is, it's just the realpolitik influencing decisions.
The EU keeps coming within inches of voting for making secure encryption impossible. Chat Control would have been worse for privacy than anything the US has.