Technology

They're using type of zk-proofs that keep things private. This is completely different from the "upload your selfie" shit in UK

Conceptually, I think this is a lot closer to where things need to be. I do understand that the application does fall short in some critical aspects of security though, and on that basis it would still need more work to be suitable.

I understand and agree with the general sentiment of resisting the surveillance state that is dominating tech ever more in this space of ID verification, but this looks to me like it would be okay if the app was built with some very strict secure-by-design approach... which it does NOT seem to be.

There should be stronger technical controls availble to keep kids away from the dangerous things online, and I do think governments can potentially play a positive role in that.

If they are so dead set on protecting children, I suggest starting with:

Gaza Strip and the West Bank (Palestine) Ukraine Sudan Myanmar Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) Syria Yemen Ethiopia Afghanistan Haiti Niger Mali Burkina Faso

Zuks wallet will do just fine in the mean time

From my understanding this age verification app seems to be based on the age verification blueprint they have been working on for a while now, which is supposed to be part of the European "digital wallet"

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-age-verification

From my understanding it works as follows:

• There will be a central "authority", with which you can identify
• This authority will provide you with tokens indicating you are 18+ (or whatever age verfication you may need)
• These tokens are stored locally, and contain no identifying information other than a simple "is this guy 18+?"
• You can use these tokens to verify age with a website that requires age verification

This solution does seemingly address my two greatest concern with online age verficiation:

• You cannot trust the website, so they only get the information they need. They don't get any identifiable information
• You cannot trust the authority, so they don't get to know for which websites and for what reason you request 18+ tokens

Assuming that this blueprint is followed, it seems like a decent approach at online age verification.

Parents should protect children online.

The motives are irrelevant. This will destroy the internet as we know it and disempower citizens. I can't help but wonder if the empowerment LLMs may have to an individual is terrifying leaders into an authoritarian mindset, finally demanding to be able to know and track what we do online, everywhere we do it. This is about protecting their ability to rule, not children from harm.

Fucking cunts won't stop. Next, it's gonna be chat control 3.0 again.

Who do we need to send to the guillotine?

bad title, this isnt about protecting kids online

The pedophile class is tightening the noose

I get my porn from illegal download sites that aren't interested in age-verification.

Like all Prohibition Policies, this is only going to push people toward more illegal outlets, which demonstrate more morality than the legal ones.

I don't use apps from official software installation sources. I will boycott any site or service that asks me for unnecessary information.

How about being a fucking parent instead of letting the government do it?

Lotta internet users are going to suddenly be from outside the EU, just like the UK population suddenly all moved to the Netherlands after their own version of this.

If this is not the most crooked EU Comission ever, it's a pretty close second.

Oh this sounds good........ I missed reading the following essential requirements

• They achieved an unhackable system that also "air gaps" the information used to prove child ID from any external agent, including themselves
• So it will be pulled immediately if it fails or exposes any childs data
• Demonstrably withstands hacking? They have independent audit data?
• Clear accountability clearly laid out for data breaches, including criminal charges?
• Ministerial accountability?

Welp, this was bound to happen, wasn't it? I'm pretty sure they're referring to this application, which I stumbled upon a while back. If I remember correctly, the app "allows" (or implicitly forces) the user to store a government issued identity: able to attest to an age-restricted website, whether or not the user is of age.

It does this, supposedly by "just" sharing an age-bracket with the website; but here's the kicker: the Union, in its generosity, has granted their citizens an in-app option, to withdraw this signal from the websites it has been provided to. What this means in practice, is the app storing one's government-issued identify, also ties back to every account requiring "age-verification"...

So now, every device containing the app, has the owner's government-issued identify on it, together with connections to every age-restricted service. And considering the apps are maintained by the Union, or member states (through their own implementations), creating a backdoor to the application's contents... I mean to "observe app usage", would be absolutely trivial.

Again, I've read it a while back, so some things might've changed, and my memory might be spotty; but I'm quite sure it's along the lines I've described.

Sure nothing wrong can result from that. /s

Ewww gross. Fuck age verification

to moniter political dissidents against the right wing to be exact, and may track women as well.