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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 78 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Palantir really wants it's fucking database.

All because Petey truly believes that there are demons living in the United States.

[–] TransNeko@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

there are demons living in the USA. all Petey has to do to find the closest one... is look in a mirror.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

No the sad truth is that Peter Theil is, in fact, human. A human that we are all capable of becoming.

You just have to make a billion bad decisions to get where he is now.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Peter Theil and Sam Altman are why "queer owned business" is no longer an interesting label to be.

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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

He is right, demons live in US. They are in various Federal, State, Local and Corporate functions. For example current Federal government are all demons (pretty much) and all of ICE employees. Demon here is "spirit or lesser humanity" or simly said Inhuman individuals.

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In the future, you'll be sentenced to 10 years hard labour for a contraband OS while children are raped openly at lavish parties.

[–] BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You will be sent to die for Israel 🤣

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

🎶Your government is run by pedophiles! 🎶

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Finally, torrenting Linux distros becomes a thing, rather than a curiosity

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I’m so sick of this depraved pedophile oligarch Mossad shit

[–] Vieric@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Has Bipartisan support too. The corporations want this, and both of our parties listen to them first and us a distant second. Catering to corporate wants is about the only thing the two parties can agree on. It's probably going to pass, even if I hope it doesn't. Buckle up my friends...

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[–] Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

When these guys say "think of the children!", it's usually with their hands down their own pants.

[–] Sprinks@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

I feel like OS age verification is similar to when they started asking for zip codes at checkout (U.S.). At first it was seen as weird and brushed off as harmless, but now they shamelessly ask for your email and phone number and get annoyed when you say no.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 10 points 6 days ago

Waiting for half of the fediverse to excuse devs complying in advance again.

[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

A few years ago, due in part to frustration with our information environs, but also for fun, I decided not to get internet after moving to a new apartment. I didn't have real internet for about 2 years. I did have 1GB of data per month through my phone service and used my phone or a mPCIE 4g card as an uplink for text-only internet. I restricted myself to JS-free http applications or light protocols like gopher, irc, rss, etc. I quite enjoyed my time having to be very mindful of my data usage. It forced me to fully audit all the technology on my LAN.

If this kind of legislation passes, I simply won't pay for internet. If both ISPs and telecoms start restricting devices, then I'll forego cell-based data as well. If public wifi spots become too restrictive, I won't patron those spots. I've accumulated more offline content on my server than I could ever consume in many lifetimes, so it really isn't a loss. Hell, it'd be an opportunity to organize it all well, and share via meshnets. Don't tempt me with a good time, politicians. I could save money, nerd out, and cut the noise from my information environments? Sign me up!

edit: I wanted to add: I do really like having a fiber link, but the main draw is having the ability to host my own services. If that goes away due to hierarchical pricing or device/encryption restrictions, 95% of the value prop disappears. I will not be strong armed into using overly-centralized services.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

The ONLY way I could remotely support age verification is if it was anonymized from the individual, similar to how companies like Mullvad do their VPN or with prepaid gift cards etc

You get a card that has a PIN behind a scratch-off section. You can buy the card for cash or order online, but there's nothing tying the buyer to the card.

Age verification can be similar where you go to a registered location, provide valid ID and like $5 to get a scratch off card. The code on the card just validates "user is 18+" but otherwise has no ties back to their actual identity.

If a site wants to do an age check, it can validate the card PIN or on phone potentially scan a 3d barcode behind the scratch-off. Maybe some hash check could be involved to avoid the need for a centralized provider.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The German ID card has that functionality. Date of birth is saved on the chip card and you can identify yourself via NFC reader and the open source ID app. You can see what information is transmitted before sending it. In the case of age verification, it would only be "underage yes/no". It's not perfect but pretty good from a privacy standpoint.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Or we could just let people do what they want on their own god damn computers.

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[–] Spezi@feddit.org 21 points 6 days ago

Finally, the year of linux is coming.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Regulate the social networks instead

[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Isn't this against the 10th amendment?

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's against the fourth and the first based on past lawsuits. But who knows what will happen with this.

[–] art@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Possibly the 1st too. Code is protected speech.

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Everyone will also be automatically registered to vote Republican.

[–] Havoc8154@mander.xyz 12 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Obviously everyone here hates this, but I'm gonna offer another perspective here and prepare for the down votes I guess.

There is a very good argument for OS level age 'tracking' as a means of creating a cohesive environment for software and websites to operate without having to implement individual age verification. The biggest actual issue here is how the OS determines what the user's age is. If this is implemented similar to what California has done, the OS would simply ask for the user's age at setup, and store that value, which can then be reported to programs and websites as needed. This would allow parents to setup a device for the child and not have to separately implement parental controls on every individual conceivable program, which are often easily circumvented. This would undermine any individual website's attempts to use age verification as an excuse to collect government ID data, and the security risks inherent to that.

There's no need to put any kind of validation onto this, it should simply be self-reported.

Now admittedly I don't trust our government to implement this in any kind of reasonable way so I definitely understand and respect the outrage, but I guess I'm just trying to find some positive aspect of how this might be implemented.

[–] ImitationLimitation@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 days ago (22 children)

Wholeheartedly disagree. OS level age verification only removes the responsibility to protect users from the software developer and shifts it to the OS makers. Meta and OpenAI want this so bad so they don’t have to protect their users and their users children. Meta created the software the has lead to hundreds, if not thousands, of child suicide and they don’t want to be held accountable. AI companies have allowed the proliferation of CSAM, copyright infringement, and straight up theft of intellectual property, and want to push that off to OS as the responsible party. Google and Apple don’t fight it because they have extraordinarily deep pockets and already have the infrastructures in place in their app stores to accommodate this tomfoolery. This is also another avenue for increased surveillance at the deepest level of your digital life that is already extremely compromised. If we want parents to have more controls, then mandate easy to use parent controls for OS’s, apps, and web apps. Legislate mandating firewalls and routers have easy to use parental controls for internet settings. Pay people living wages and work them less hours so they can learn to use those things. Don’t add spyware into the OS. “Take off your tin hat dude.” How do you think they’ll verify age at the OS level? It will have to have an api that can be used to obtain the age verified information. Who’s responsive for reviewing all that PII? Where does that go? Who retains that information and for how long? What encryption technology is mandated to protect it from breach? Nah, man, no thanks.

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[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 13 points 6 days ago

This is steel-manning an argument for a feature no one wants which is most likely the thin end of the wedge for increased surveillance and censorship.

This is just how it starts so they can trick well meaning developers into making websites and platforms which make use of this verification while it is still self-ID, but when the laws become more demanding and require connecting your user account to your real-world identity, it'll already be too late, all of your online activity can be tied back to you.

When I make this argument, people like to call it a slippery slope, but the fact is that there are so many nations cracking down on free, unmonitored access to the internet, with social media restrictions, platforms like Discord requiring you to provide identification, and so on.

All for this, all of that risk, all for a feature that adds very little value to the computing experience of anyone.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

This isn't why those pushing for want it. It isn't about the kids safety but harvesting more information so they can tie all the other tracking data they have to a individual. its alway think of the children but lets make some money while we are at it.

Wrong. There are things that belong at the application level and others that belong in user space. Fundamentally it doesn’t make sense for any sort of mandate.

TF should I have to put my age or any other personal information into my pihole or any other system I’m running.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Absolutely not, age data is biometric data. It can and will be used to fingerprint you.

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sure, make it an optional field that you can fill in with whatever. Don't make laws requiring it though.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I'll appreciate that it's hard to be a devil's advocate on an argument and provide a nuanced take. But I will say the points made on the Ageless Linux website demonstrate why that's an issue, primarily around how you're teaching kids from their first time on the internet to lie. It really doesn't matter whether this happens through a drivers' license pic or a DOB selector.

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[–] ImitationLimitation@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

For all those that truly believe this is no big deal, and honestly believe it’s about kids, and think all the commenters in here are silly or tin hat wearers… go read this:

https://lemmy.ml/post/46083470

Short version: US based company providing age verification has US Govt. surveillance within their stack that adds you to all kinds of potential lists, among other concerns. It also serves as a huge honeypot of data just waiting to be breached, and it will be breached.

For those in the back not paying attention: THIS IS NOT ABOUT KID SAFETY, IT’S ABOUT TRACKING YOU AND YOUR KIDS!

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 6 days ago

Quit trying to make it happen

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