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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When Musk took over Twitter he allowed violent and extremist views to flood it without moderation.

That's the sort of community Lemmy would be if we didn't have the tools needed to keep it clean of harmful ideologies.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean like Exploding Heads? I agree, fuck Nazis.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When nazis start enforcing their ideology I will raise arms, until then your sentiment closely resembles the goal of propagandists on these sites: create division and cause violence.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

What are you talking about? Exploding Heads is a literal Nazi Lemmy Instance that was defederated by pretty much every major instance.

Or are you going on an Anticommunist rant?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And those harmful ideologies are.?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

White Supremacy, Anti-immigrant, Anti-Trade, Anti-NATO, Anti-human-rights for LGBT, etc.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’ve got bad news for you: a lot of us are anti-NATO.

Also, what the hell is anti-trade? Do you want every Westphalian state to build a wall around itself?

Edit to add: Oh I see, you created this new account because @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today got permabanned from lemmy.ml 😂 Let’s see how long this one lasts…

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anti-Trade

What does this mean?

Anti-NATO

It's good to be Anti-NATO, NATO has Nazi origins and serves as a way to maintain Western Hegemony, securing profits via Imperialism and defending said Imperialism through coalition.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lmao

Mutual defense and deterrent to invasion by hostile world powers both in and outside of NATO is a bad thing? Sure, okay pal.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's an alliance between Imperialist countries, and the alliance itself has Nazi origins and has had Nazi leaders. Yes, it's a bad thing, because Imperialism is a bad thing.

It's a gang of countries that hyper-exploit the Global South in mutual defense against said Global South.

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

it's lemmyworld... they'll never learn that they aren't on reddit anymore.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

It's expansionist against the wishes of outside countries, and NATO exerts military pressure on the Global South.

Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

Bzzzzt wrong. NATO's only function is to preserve Western Hegemony and dominate the Global South militarily, so that member-States can continue exploiting ruthlessly unopposed. This results in proxy wars, such as the Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Its not expansionist because you have to request to join.

The only objecting countries whose wishes you're referring to are nations who want to invade potential NATO members.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its not expansionist because you have to request to join

Bzzzzt wrong. NATO is expansionist because it pressures non-member states and routinely starts proxy wars.

The only countries whose wishes you're referring to are nations who want to invade potential NATO members.

Bzzzzzt wrong. Western Hegemony damages the Global South and NATO keeps member-states unaccountable.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You're accusing America of causing Russian annexation of Crimea and subsequent war on Ukraine?

You think Russia is working for NATO?

Pressuring people into a mutual defence pact lol such an evil thing lol

It’s expansionist against the wishes of outside countries

this isn't super accurate, joining nato has some pretty strict requirements, and besides yeeting NATO would be like the west completely nuking china and russia because "they did a human rights violation" it's just a dogwhistle lmao.

[–] IAmNotACat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

anti-NATO

A “harmful ideology”? Is someone paying you to spout this propaganda?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

NATO's only function is mutual defense, NATO support ends when a member attacks.

Since the only thing NATO does is prevent War, the only anti-NATO stance is a pro-war stance.

[–] IAmNotACat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The invasion of Libya was a NATO-led effort.

Stop lying.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you referring to the coalition of some NATO members and some non-NATO members (19 nations total) enforcing a United Nations Security Council decision to make an immediate ceasefire and end the civil war in Libya?

The one with zero troops on the ground?

Being in NATO had no impact on the events, NATO member support was not mandatory as per the terms of NATO. The only reason they even call it a NATO operarion was because Itally would only vote in favor of the operation if NATO members were in charge instead of France.

[–] IAmNotACat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The reason for NATO’s involvement is quite irrelevant because they were still happy to step in and do the work. The fact is that it was ultimately NATO-led and their efforts did not lead to peace in the region.

To call NATO’s involvement in Libya ‘anti-war’ is sheer lunacy.