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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Genuinely boggled that anyone would think this is not the same geopolitical players behind Brexit and trump. It’s exactly the same. If there was a big red bus with ‘Alberta will be more free in the US’ it couldn’t be more the same.

  1. it’s not going to happen; it’s never going to happen
  2. it’s not about seceding or annexation - it’s about politically dividing Albertans specifically, and Canada more generally.
  3. Again, this is the same psyop playbook, top to bottom - there is nothing behind it except oligarch money and bot farms.
[–] TheGreatRapsBeat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I hope you are right, and generally speaking I believe the same way you do on the matter. Sure they had lineups 2000 people long in every community, but that’s it. Everyone that was going to sign their stupid petitions signed them the first 3 days.

But if you are like me and live here, the sentiment is very much “fuck Ottawa” more than “fuck Canada.” It’s sad how easily affected a population can be when it comes to propaganda like this. It’s sad really. And we thought thought as a society, making sure everyone can read and write a lawful requirement was a good thing.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago)

Why do you hate ottowa?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

And we thought thought as a society, making sure everyone can read and write a lawful requirement was a good thing.

It’s not wrong there’s just an evil financial incentive to keep literacy at a certain level.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 4 hours ago

Hey, just tossing this out there, but rather than have you guys join America, can we join Canada? Just the nice folks, I promise, we don't want the MAGAs either.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Canadian or Provincial annexation is a terrible deal for 2 main reasons.

US debt, and power projection, is on a near term collapse trajectory. Insane healthcare, military spending levels for no social services is higher effective tax/oppression rate on people/small business. Changes in provincial (and/or federal) government structure would be extremely disruptive.

Territorial possession of the US is far more likely than statehood. Far less generous autonomy (Quebec especially) granted by Federal government, and autonomy eroded continuously like native treaties have been. Increased north/south trade seems nice, but "real states" will get federal manufacturing incentives, and possessions will be hollowed out to 3rd world level. Jones act regulations on sea shipping means high cost of living.

While tariffs decrease unity as they should, the whole "protect steel and auto workers for outrageously expensive cars in states that don't have those industries" is reason for highest GDP states to secede from genuinely corrupt political process, that propagandizes swing states on national socialist domination of uneconomic operations delivering no results for them, and shit product for the oppressed states.

[–] TheGreatRapsBeat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

You definitely do not need to tell anyone on here twice my friend. Your comment could be used in a sub or two over at Reddit though. Then again, they’d probably just drown you out with “fucking libtard” comments.

[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 43 points 11 hours ago

And herein lies is the real reason AI is being so heavily funded.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Who coordinates it? I mean, isn't this the political influencing the right wing fears so much?

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago

But the Left doesn't want it to happen, so you can see how their hands are tied.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Once again, Putin and his gnomes spreading discord, anything to break the West.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Why would Putin be behind this when Trump has openly talked about annexing Canada and has just recently met with Alberta separatists??

I swear, Westerners will use any excuse to blame China/Russia. There could be an American pedophile procuring children for American politicians and they would still blame Russia. Oh wait... they actually fucking did. Wake up and smell the shit from your own political class.

The West breaks itself by being imperialist warmongers. Some slop Youtube videos ain't gonna do shit.

[–] michaelalf@lemmy.world 99 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

I rarely get ads, thanks to pihole. But whenever my server is down for maintenance etc. I get spammed with "Visit the USA!" and "America the Beautiful" ads. I live in Australia... Why the fuck would I want to visit that shithole country?

It seems like the US is drowning and is trying desperately to get more people in to replace the "illegals" they're deporting. Maybe I'm just their target audience (straight, white, male) ughh.... makes me feel gross.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 8 points 4 hours ago

Just a different kind of gambling ad. Gamble your life for a discounted trip to Disney World. Will you make it big or get sent to El Salvador?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 52 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hi, American here. Please never come here. While YOU would be mostly safe, we are still a dumpster fire.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, if we manage to get our shit together I encourage everyone to visit our national parks. It's not safe now or for the foreseeable future, but if it is in the future, they really are something to behold.

[–] carmo55@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Before trump 2 electric boogaloo this was one of my biggest dreams..

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 8 minutes ago

How often will you see the fall of an empire though? You have to appreciate it with your own eyes.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

youtube accounts should be authenticated to a human being in an organisation and those details be public to save democracy

[–] wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 hours ago

No. Education should be better funded. I'll give social media platforms my ID when hell freezes over.

Be very, very careful in advocating for that.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

you mean russian linked accounts, many propaganda videos are provided by troll farms themselves.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Russian, Indian, Egyptian...anywhere where there are poor people to exploit. Derek from Veritasium made a video studying and tracking troll farms years ago. A lot of those troll farms are from the usual suspected countries, where dire poverty push them to desperation, and are exploited by powers-that-be.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca -4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

A bunch of YouTube channels that no one watches anyway. Nothing burger.

[–] Doom@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

YOU don't watch it. But I've watched in real time while videos like this appear on relative's feeds while they doomscroll as they uncritically absorb everything that appears. Sometimes watching the same video two or five times because the damn app loops. And when I point out "you know that's bullshit right?" The response is always some variation of: "I wasn't paying attention to what it said I was just watching." But they are absorbing it because days or weeks later they will parrot that same BS at me in a conversation.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I wish that were true. My elderly father has this slop playing constantly. It's a struggle to have a conversation based in reality these days.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I am myself flooded by AI astrophysics videos by dead scientists and it's so annoying.

[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 34 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

There has been a concerted effort to isolate Canada and the US from each other in recent years. Also within Canada itself the rise of US style individualism has been depressing to see. Its wild how much social media has been weaponized by most nation states to use against others.

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[–] yottle@kopitalk.net 43 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

The Trump administration has also been holding meetings with the leaders behind the Alberta separatist movement ( source). At this point I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the US is performing a targeted destabilization campaign against Canada.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

They absolutely fucking are doing that. There may be other parties involved, take your pick. Everything surrounding this is basically a Brexit-style psyop.

Alberta has fossil fuels and minerals. America wants them. Simple as that.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

They're trying to do it all over the world. It's just easier to do next door bcz it's close by.

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