Turns out when everyone acts rationally, we can actually accomplish shit.
Fuck AI
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
And then there's antichiral bacteria, where the entire scientific community will shoot you if you even breath wrong adjacent to the idea
As someone who has family that died from mad cow (prion disease), fuck everything about that. The fact that there are prion-tainted spaces out in the wild, is terrifying enough.
ooo, that's a fun concept to think of. yeah, grab your go bag.
What's that and what do you mean by breathing wrong at the idea? Is someone trying to breed some sort of supervillain bacteria?
The difference between AI and the other 3: AI has the potential to save all the rich people trillions through the firing of the proletariat whereas the 3 numbered items were merely a small group of people trying to make money for themselves.
1 and 3 could easily make a boatload of money, and could allow rich people to “live forever” and edit themselves in the process.
Wut. Rich people will shoot themselves in the foot by firing the proletariat. AI is trash.
The only thing that would save them is a bail out when everything crashes.
So much of the white collar work is frankly a bit performative in general, and doing it well versus doing it badly versus not even doing it at all is sometimes not at all possible to tell.
Thanks to mismanagement, people are brought in "in case they might be useful" a bunch of material is produced that is beyond the ken of the management who just smiles and nods because they have no idea.
Witnessed a group manage to coast on doing effectively nothing for over a year on "we are going to do analytics in the cloud" as executive after executive sagely nodded. New executive came into the fold and got the same pitch and said "ok, fine, but what analytics, with what data sources, what do you expect to get out of it?" In a rare moment of competence an executive actually dared to figure out something instead of just smiling over the buzzwords. That same executive was gone within 3 months, because broadly speaking this was a problem for his peers that mostly operated by buzzword alignment.
There's a mountain of internal project document material that must be created, but is never used, because of processes where non-technical executives imagine they can review a technical design as long as it isn't "code", or that they can fire their coders and replace with new coders if they can reference some 'non-code' document to help.
GenAI may be pretty bad, but depressingly it might not matter given how much pretty bad stuff is already out there.
"An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." ~ Sun Tzu
"AI Slop" is not mutually exclusive with "AI fascism". Billionaires are already burning down the planet. Clearly they don't care about killing humanity on the way.
I mean none of those have immediate and massive financial advantages to the people doing them though.
Human cloning could print a workforce. Or an army.
Human cloning (media) and human cloning (real life) are two completely different processes that don't have anything to do with each other. Human cloning in real life is a way to spend too much money to get something that is worse than just two people fucking.
Human cloning could be used to harvest organs and blood. I can imagine a lot of money could be made offering perfectly compatible transplant organs harvested from cloned people with O-negative blood.
Not without solving the issues with shortened telomers
https://thisweekinsciencenews.com/blog/2025/10/28/the-truth-about-human-cloning-and-why-it-fails/
and the issue of how to raise a child to carry the organs and then....harvest them all at once? If you take the heart from the clone, what, you just trash the kidneys and liver?
Firstly, I would be much more swayed by your argument had you not linked some AI slop article sprinkled in em-dashes and containing zero sources/links, much less reputable ones.
Secondly, we can imagine that such technology would be much more mature if it were legal and considered ethically acceptable to perform on humans.
Third, you could grow multiple people simultaneously and in intervals, such that multiple clients' needs can be met by taking apart one host. We already have existing variable pricing systems, so a less-efficient scenario would simply cost the customer more. To a multi-billionaire, what is a couple billion dollars if you might live 10 more years? To the service provider, what is 'wasted [insert organs]' to the tune of a billion dollars or more in profit?
A lot of these aren't paused entirely because people chose to pause them though, as much as it was hitting a limitation.
Cloning, for example. The bigger issue is that clones don't live for very long, and that the clone is basically a new human. If we had a science fiction cloning machine that could copy people, you could easily bet that research would be forging ahead.
Didn't we only stop RDNA experiments on humans? Like, nobody is gonna make a "designer baby" but don't we still do shit like give flies extra wings?
Looks like they're starting it up again
Heed my warning science: If we start making flying purple babies, we will bring upon the wrath of the one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater.
Yeah, CRISPR came along so now that's what everyone is into.
China has been doing designer babies(to some extent) for over a decade now
And we can choose to use AI only in certain domains as well.
None are paused tho. They might say they are
And the beauty of this stance is that it's literally impossible to disprove, so you never have to be wrong.
Of course the problem is that you as the claimant have burden of proof.
I'll do you one better by just using logic. There is no more work needed for blinding lasers, you can pick up a battery powered IR setup for a few hundred dollars and strap it to a rifle, done. Recomb DNA actually is still being studied, allow me to gesture very broadly to ALL the shit we do with yeast and I dated a girl working with M. Maydis for treating breast cancer.
Of course the problem is that you as the claimant have burden of proof.
People who say this kind of thing about claims regarding government or industry-level activities have no clue about security classifications.
How are you supposed to provide proof for something that is being deliberately withheld from the public?
We do recombinant DNA experiments all the time. We just don't do it on humans, and even it depends on the specifics when done on test animals.
yeah, didn't they make mammoth meat recently but they're all too coward to eat it (call me scientists i want to eat that mammoth)
Sure they did. /s
Humanity hasn't paused research in those areas. The West has, China on the other hand does its own thing, the Chinese love messing around with DNA they keep trying to make dinosaurs out of chickens.
The west also has directed energy weapons (IR Lasers and whatever the f**k they used in Venezuela that made the guards bleed from every orifice) formally used for burning missiles in flight, that can easily punch a hole through a human
What is dangerous AI?
I'd go with weapons systems designed to remove humans from the decision. Tools that people use to approve medications or treatment without actually understanding what they're approving. Cars that remove human judgement from uncertain circumstances. AI systems that make employment decisions to shield people from responsibility or legal culpability.
Basically any situation with real consequences where you're taking a person out of the responsibility or decision making loop.
Also certain non LLM AI technologies for extracting information and patterns from interconnected data sets. Basically automated mass surveillance systems.
I'd be pretty certain that if any of these has "paused" its just because research reached its limits and is waiting for the next big development that enables it to continue.
Also "recombinant DNA experiments"??? What in the world is meant by that?