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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 111 points 1 month ago (3 children)

None are paused tho. They might say they are

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 106 points 1 month ago (10 children)

And the beauty of this stance is that it's literally impossible to disprove, so you never have to be wrong.

Of course the problem is that you as the claimant have burden of proof.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 34 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I'll do you one better by just using logic. There is no more work needed for blinding lasers, you can pick up a battery powered IR setup for a few hundred dollars and strap it to a rifle, done. Recomb DNA actually is still being studied, allow me to gesture very broadly to ALL the shit we do with yeast and I dated a girl working with M. Maydis for treating breast cancer.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If AI can only be done in such secrecy that it's impossible to disprove then I'd call that a win.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course the problem is that you as the claimant have burden of proof.

People who say this kind of thing about claims regarding government or industry-level activities have no clue about security classifications.

How are you supposed to provide proof for something that is being deliberately withheld from the public?

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've got a blinding laser in my CD burner.

Allegedly, a Dr in China was already creating designer babies, and recombinant DNA products exist (and therefore, the research to create those products is being done.) Hell, I've done my own recombinant DNA experiments in my bio labs during college.

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

The difference between AI and the other 3: AI has the potential to save all the rich people trillions through the firing of the proletariat whereas the 3 numbered items were merely a small group of people trying to make money for themselves.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Wut. Rich people will shoot themselves in the foot by firing the proletariat. AI is trash.

The only thing that would save them is a bail out when everything crashes.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So much of the white collar work is frankly a bit performative in general, and doing it well versus doing it badly versus not even doing it at all is sometimes not at all possible to tell.

Thanks to mismanagement, people are brought in "in case they might be useful" a bunch of material is produced that is beyond the ken of the management who just smiles and nods because they have no idea.

Witnessed a group manage to coast on doing effectively nothing for over a year on "we are going to do analytics in the cloud" as executive after executive sagely nodded. New executive came into the fold and got the same pitch and said "ok, fine, but what analytics, with what data sources, what do you expect to get out of it?" In a rare moment of competence an executive actually dared to figure out something instead of just smiling over the buzzwords. That same executive was gone within 3 months, because broadly speaking this was a problem for his peers that mostly operated by buzzword alignment.

There's a mountain of internal project document material that must be created, but is never used, because of processes where non-technical executives imagine they can review a technical design as long as it isn't "code", or that they can fire their coders and replace with new coders if they can reference some 'non-code' document to help.

GenAI may be pretty bad, but depressingly it might not matter given how much pretty bad stuff is already out there.

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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." ~ Sun Tzu

"AI Slop" is not mutually exclusive with "AI fascism". Billionaires are already burning down the planet. Clearly they don't care about killing humanity on the way.

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[–] LaoiseFu@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

None of those were paused LOLOLOLOL

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Came here to say this, but without the LOLs.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Came here to say this, but with one lol.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

this is the way

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 month ago (9 children)

And then there's antichiral bacteria, where the entire scientific community will shoot you if you even breath wrong adjacent to the idea

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

As someone who has family that died from mad cow (prion disease), fuck everything about that. The fact that there are prion-tainted spaces out in the wild, is terrifying enough.

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[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I find AI very frustrating. I had a script I wanted to turn into a systemd service which I've never done. I searched the web, didn't find quite what I wanted so I asked AI. It gave a great answer to exactly my question and explained what every field was doing. It got me there faster than searching and browsing forums would have.

So great, I also wanted to set up a watchdog on the pi to reboot. It tells me to get watchdog package from apt then edit a systemd conf file. An hour later with nothing working right gave up and found a tutorial in about 30 seconds of web browsing that made it clear AI was mixing up instructions from 2 different methods.

So it saved me 5 minutes on one thing, cost me an hour on another. I feel like the internet and search engines of 10 years ago were much better than what we have now.

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[–] bonenode@piefed.social 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd be pretty certain that if any of these has "paused" its just because research reached its limits and is waiting for the next big development that enables it to continue.

Also "recombinant DNA experiments"??? What in the world is meant by that?

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago

only after years of kicking and screaming, and companies that made CFCs switched to more expensive HFCs and later HFOs so it's not like they went out of the business. (alternative is use of hydrocarbons which is much cheaper but flammability was used as a reason to restrict their use) CFCs are also still used as chemical intermediates and as late as during covid there was an operational illegal R12 factory somewhere in northern china

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[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not how this meme format works

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We do recombinant DNA experiments all the time. We just don't do it on humans, and even it depends on the specifics when done on test animals.

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[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The grifters want to become "too big to fail", so that a "pause" would cause finance market drama. So, first, block the sale of the shares -- that's needed to avoid the grifters offloading to bigger fools.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Recombinant DNA promised better organ transplants, but it made Christians uncomfortable, so Bush II banned it.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Humanity hasn't paused research in those areas. The West has, China on the other hand does its own thing, the Chinese love messing around with DNA they keep trying to make dinosaurs out of chickens.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The west also has directed energy weapons (IR Lasers and whatever the f**k they used in Venezuela that made the guards bleed from every orifice) formally used for burning missiles in flight, that can easily punch a hole through a human

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago

Fuck reddit

[–] lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Well in theory we can fix all society. But we are greedy fucks

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[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

The only thing dangerous about AI is people believing the hype and thinking it can actually think and do things it can't do at all. LLMs, flock cameras etc. are just MENACE matchbox computers at their core. And it's dangerous that governments and CEOs are just blindly relying on whatever crap they pump out without human supervision.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But! What if a computer could reproduce all the same phenomenon as a brain?

Do we have any reason to think this might be the case? Not really. But. We also (maybe) have no reason to think this isn't the case. What else are we gonna spend trillions gambling on? An ecosystem capable of supporting mammals? Don't make me laugh!

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Two major flaws is none of those examples had the potential to be highly profitable. And all three of those had major ethical and morality concerns that the general public wouldn't approve.

AI is being packaged and sold as a toy, so while people do object to it, it's not the same scale of playing god or literal war crimes.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Two major flaws is none of those examples had the potential to be highly profitable.

Neither does so-called "AI". OpenAI, Anthropic and the rest are burning money like it's nobody's business.

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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I hear one more person say something along the lines of, "AI is the future" I'm going to strangle them. Of all the people that say that shit, none of them can explain how it works.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Didn't we only stop RDNA experiments on humans? Like, nobody is gonna make a "designer baby" but don't we still do shit like give flies extra wings?

[–] wub@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Heed my warning science: If we start making flying purple babies, we will bring upon the wrath of the one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (15 children)

I mean none of those have immediate and massive financial advantages to the people doing them though.

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[–] abs_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

ooooohh it's so dangerous and capable ooohhhhh please we need to be regulated ooooooo we're not releasing it to the public it's so dangerous ooooooo

[–] SirIglooi@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

No idea what you're on about. Mythos is a GAME CHANGER. Completely DESTROYS software security. Thats why we're going to SAVE THE WORLD by letting our corporate sponsors use it.

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[–] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Wouldn't doug judy's "name one bad nurse" scene have been a way better fir for this meme?

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