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I can't. I just can't.

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[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

I am driving my 2018 car which doesn’t even have auto stop start until it dies.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago
[–] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 113 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Why are govts like this suddenly? All in a arms race against privacy?

[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 3 points 15 hours ago

Its been like this my entire life. When I was in high school in the 90s one of my teachers said the greatest battle your generation will fight will be for privacy. Little did they know there would be no fight. The general public doesn't seem interested in caring about things and voting with their wallet. Now we've reached this point where the game is up and companies have realized the masses will buy their products because people perceive that they "need" them and can't do without which gives them free reign to do whatever they want.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Cars have been privacy nightmares for quite a while. People simply do not care.

[–] Tywele@piefed.social 37 points 22 hours ago

Many don’t even know to start caring.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 29 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

I care. But they make it really hard to remove or disable that shit.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

Toyota did it lazily in my '21 Rav4, just pull the fuse for the modem and it doesn't care. Just don't let a dealer plug into the system in case that data can still be downloaded physically

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[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

If this comes to Canada I'll be driving an electric scooter or bike.

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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I assume the NHTSA will pay for it? Good luck, fuckers.

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[–] doc@sopuli.xyz 142 points 1 day ago (8 children)

And when all the used cars are gone and I'm forced to buy one of these I'll promptly be destroying the radio transmitters and everything related to this surveillance.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 104 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 22 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

My car is constantly telling me to drive with both hands or yo get coffee when I am driving fine.

Many years ago I had a somewhat scary car accident and since I drive very cautiously and never speed. Yet this fucking thing is still yelling at me all the time.

If I could figure out how it decides to yell at me, I would unplug it.

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 16 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

What car is that? So that I know never to buy or suggest one

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I suspected as much. The only car I've ever seen with a coffee symbol. That alert can be disabled in the settings. At least, it's easy in the turbo gen 2 fusions (2013-2020) with the single dial gauge and dual screens in the dash. Not sure if the 2.5l gen 2 (or any gen 1) has that alert in the more basic single screen dash.

Gen 2 is a great car otherwise because it's a rebadged EU Mondeo.

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[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Every new car has a million alerts and beeps and warnings and its sensory hell

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah the beeps and bongs are not a new thing. Clarkson raged about it 20+ years ago. "I KNOW THE DOOR IS OPEN THERES A HUGE GAP NEXT TO ME"

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

No, that's not even close to how bad it is now. Hell, I bought a car that's a decade old and the fucker yells at me for being to close to the lines, yells if I'm approaching a stopped car "too fast" (which means it freaks out even when I'm slowing past 25 with 4-5 SUV lengths ahead of me), when I back up and there's anything remotely close off to the side (remotely close is the 2.5 ft on either side of me as I back out my driveway), and it gives me an extra special freak out if there's any possible cross traffic to 4 houses on either side of me. That last one is a nice warning the few times I've needed it, but more often than not, it's spazzing out over the neighbors taking their dog out on the other side of the street.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago

I've had my gfs accord emergency brake on me twice. One was coming to a hairpin turn on a mountain and an rv had pulled off onto a turn out for us to pass. And another was several car lengths away from a car making a turn into a drive way. Neither of which were even remotely close to an accident. It just freaked out.

And I've had tons of beeps for side streets with cars park along a gentle curve which the car doesn't understand the fucking road turns. I HATE all the tech.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 17 hours ago

I have a 2023 and while it does those things by default every single one of them can be turned off.

The front collision and the movement behind were left on because they occasionally help. Lane assist and the proximity got turned off immediately because of so many false alarms.

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[–] Eryn6844@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

guess its time to buy the 1995 ford then?

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You can easily go up to 2010 and later without any antennas besides the radio. But also yes, the answer is dumb Ford Ranger for other reasons.

I really want a maverick (ute), but I will not do it without confirmation that it will function fine with the cell antenna unplugged.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You can easily go up to 2010 and later without any antennas besides the radio.

I mean, you've still got a license plate. Cops have been tracking those for decades.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

License plates don't report your average driving speed and number of hard braking stops etc... to your insurance company.

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