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I can't. I just can't.

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[–] doc@sopuli.xyz 171 points 1 month ago (10 children)

And when all the used cars are gone and I'm forced to buy one of these I'll promptly be destroying the radio transmitters and everything related to this surveillance.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 129 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 139 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Why are govts like this suddenly? All in a arms race against privacy?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because late stage capitalism, lobbyists pushed legislators to allow data collection so that it can be sold to insurance companies who also lobbied so that they can charge more for premiums.

Every company makes more profit.

We don't live in a democracy anymore.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Guillotine insurance companies. They're just scummy middle-men that seek profit at the cost of everyone else

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not suddenly. It's been going on at least as far back as 2001. Probably more. It's generally not the gov't either as the gov't is mostly driven by moneyed private interests like large corporations. They always push in different ways to get more power to make profit. Get rid of a regulation, make new regulation, get a subsidy, limit rights to resist some abuse, etc. Sometimes it's just more obvious that others in general, or it's in an are we personally pay attention to, and we're like WTAF.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 128 points 1 month ago (25 children)

as someone who has dealt with over 20 years of pulling victims, alive and dead, from crashes caused by drunks (am firefighter not terrible driver..) I can say this won’t help shit. Just give more data (profit) to corporations and be used in rights violating ways.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's never actually about safety

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[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 114 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They will really do anything before investing in public transit

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 43 points 1 month ago (23 children)

Automobile-centric infrastructure was such a colossal societal fuck-up.

Bad for personal health, physical safety, household finances, and the environment. Automobiles are not a symbol of freedom, they are a symbol of dependence.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup, drunkards in a tram are annoying but they almost never kill people and cause tens of thousands in damage.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 86 points 1 month ago
[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 month ago (24 children)

Reminder that this requires all vehicles be SOLD with the tech. It says nothing about what happens to it after purchase.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It'll be like every other car with driver assistance and every other advanced feature now, everything gets strapped to the same CANbus and unified powerttrain control module so disabling one part of the system causes the car to get stuck in limp mode, have constant nusiance alerts, and fail state inspections to get registered.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am never buying a car built after 2016

[–] themachine@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (17 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

It depends on the make but that’s when I feel cars tipped the scale to becoming appliances

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Cars have been privacy nightmares for quite a while. People simply do not care.

[–] Tywele@piefed.social 41 points 1 month ago

Many don’t even know to start caring.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I care. But they make it really hard to remove or disable that shit.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (7 children)

How about limiting the insanely bright headlights first?

[–] Archr@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it the bright headlights or the abundance of trucks raised so high that the headlights beam directly into your eyeballs...

Both. It's both.

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[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need to scrap the entire US government and start over.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 44 points 1 month ago (3 children)

2027, year of Linux car, or bicycle.

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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 month ago (9 children)

The day the vehicle I paid for doesn't work because a goddamn sensor thinks I'm not fit to drive is the day I break my foot off in someone's ass.

Fuck this dystopian shit show we're creating for ourselves.

Vote better.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Every technology is eventually used against you by the state

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[–] sveltecider@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"I dont want a chinese car because it would just spy on me"

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

The used car market looks mighty good right about now.

[–] Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It’s 1984 and no one cares

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lately, whenever anyone draws the obvious parallels to 1984, posters seem to jump to say that Orwell had unsavoury beliefs and therefore it negates any correct thing he ever said.

It’s such a weird world where we decide someone must be 100% correct by today’s standards or else everything they ever said must be complete bunk.

All of our historical heroes were assholes by today’s standards, and we will be assholes in the eyes of our descendants.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What the fuck? When did Congress pass this, and why wasn't there a huge public outcry against it?

[–] viov@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Open source hardware needs to be built up more. To do that we need more new people active in that to get different things done. Including vehicles

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[–] Cad@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Drunk driving is one thing but it will also judge how tired you are? Driving tired is dangerous. Unfortunately a huge portion of our economy runs on people working too many hours at too many jobs. A huge invasion of privacy with all sorts of knockon effects.

For the people who think they will disable this. You won't be able to without also disabling your car and voiding your warrenty.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 month ago (17 children)

My car is constantly telling me to drive with both hands or yo get coffee when I am driving fine.

Many years ago I had a somewhat scary car accident and since I drive very cautiously and never speed. Yet this fucking thing is still yelling at me all the time.

If I could figure out how it decides to yell at me, I would unplug it.

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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Looks like I'll need to start stockpiling old camrys and corollas in addition to hard drives, routers, motherboards, ram, dumb TVs, flip phones/whatever else they're taking away this year.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Let's spoof the data and say we did it

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[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Only drive cars made before Onstar and similar systems were added in the early 90s. They have been tracking you for a long time. But even then you need a license plate, which is constantly collected in most urban areas, stored and sold. It's really impossible to travel anywhere even if you have no phone giving away your location. Flock and all the surveillance systems also tie into the license plate data. Cars began having cell connections and other ways to broadcast data after the onstar type systems were added. Now it's a whole other world with the amount of data cars like Tesla can collect. /OldManRant

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Another system to allow hackers into your automobile. The federal government could use the biometric data from car for passport photos. On the other hand, I despise drivers under the influence.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

So how much is this tech going to raise already stupidly high car prices.

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