https://www.gadgetreview.com/federal-surveillance-tech-becomes-mandatory-in-new-cars-by-2027
Can we post the original sources and not middle men?
this post was submitted on 24 Apr 2026
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Open source hardware needs to be built up more. To do that we need more new people active in that to get different things done. Including vehicles
Be the change you want to see.
Also, loop me in. I have almost no free time at the moment but I'm building up a list of FOSS projects to work on when I retire.
True, alright I got to see how to help build that up. We all got this!!
Know any good online/in-person open source hardware, software, and Linux groups I can join that are established for other things? Need to learn and do as much as I can to make it happen
The used car market looks mighty good right about now.
as someone who has dealt with over 20 years of pulling victims, alive and dead, from crashes caused by drunks (am firefighter not terrible driver..) I can say this won’t help shit. Just give more data (profit) to corporations and be used in rights violating ways.
Nothing is perfect, but the GSR2 for example has undoubtedly saved many lives. The problem isn't with the technology, but that you don't have any real privacy laws in the US.
Like the EU is any better. Last I checked, France is passing the same kind of bullshit over and over, too.
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Drivers in tatters.
I'll just walk outside where there's no surveillance.
Imagine this is what encourages people to ramp up public transit construction nationwide. Along with the Strait of Hormuz blockade.
Looking forward to all the good that will come from people refusing this stuff
LMAO
Is this just in America? Or worldwide?
Mostly the US. But if it ships to the US market from overseas, expect it there too.
So I'll have reduced millage/charge and extra weight for carrying around this surveillance technology for the government and whose sole benefit will be the government?
Will I be compensated for this burden? No?
Would I be penalized for removing it from my car on my own?
What happens if it "breaks"? Will I be expected to fork over my own money to repair/replace the government's surveilance device? Logically speaking, burdening the car's operating with a regulatory requirement like this could constitute a taking. Then again, it could be a logical extension of Congress's taxing and spending power, but it probably isn't without a strict mandate from Congress to have those devices.
They will really do anything before investing in public transit
Automobile-centric infrastructure was such a colossal societal fuck-up.
Bad for personal health, physical safety, household finances, and the environment. Automobiles are not a symbol of freedom, they are a symbol of dependence.
While I agree about automobile centric structure, when rural living automobiles are absolutely the ticket to freedom. It's a shame more populace areas get designed around maintaining dependence on cars.
I think the point is choice. Even those living in suburban and urban areas have a difficult time opting out of car-dependence.
If you choose to live rural, I would say that automobiles are part and parcel to that decision. It's just the nature of low population density.
Except there is absolutely no reason it has to be like that in rural areas. Period. At all. Even a little. Look at China (or if you still believe the NED puts out legitimate stories, Denmark or Sweden or Norway) which has public transit to nearly all rural areas at least a couple times a week, and inter-village public transit in pretty much all villages that have more than a dozen people.
Busses are more efficient than independent vehicle ownership in all settings. All of them.
More efficient, sure, but their argument was about freedom, which is just a different dimension. In an extreme example, private jets provide more freedom than public transportation does, even though it's obvious which one is worse for the environment, more expensive, more intrusive, etc.
Except that's not freedom.
It is not freedom to have a, and this really isn't an exaggeration, more than 10,000x personal cost for transportation. It's freedom for the rich, but the rich aren't a part of society and cannot be generalized into society.
It is not freedom to have to personally rely on the US to do the right thing.
It is not freedom to take on the massive legal and financial risk that is driving a death machine.
It is only freedom in the most infantile, 'Anarkiddie' sense of the word freedom. The 'Hurr durr we'd all be more free if we had less laws' kind of idiocracy most humans abandon by the age of 15 when they learn about the concept of government.
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Only drive cars made before Onstar and similar systems were added in the early 90s. They have been tracking you for a long time. But even then you need a license plate, which is constantly collected in most urban areas, stored and sold. It's really impossible to travel anywhere even if you have no phone giving away your location. Flock and all the surveillance systems also tie into the license plate data. Cars began having cell connections and other ways to broadcast data after the onstar type systems were added. Now it's a whole other world with the amount of data cars like Tesla can collect. /OldManRant
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