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Microsoft Teams users are extremely angry at new banner asking them to pay (www.neowin.net)
submitted 3 hours ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Most of my career is built on MS's stack (I fell into .NET development and got good at it. Now I'm in the same boat as COBOL, Java, and Ruby-on-Rails devs: I'm basically a software doula.)

Every job I go into now I'm reccomending they get a migration plan for self-hosting and self-owning. The American tech system is collapsing. AI is causing massive ruptures in knowledge: it obscures searches, it deskills devs, it's castrated the junior-senior-principle ladder such that we're not training enough developers to even pass along all of the knowledge of how current systems work. SaaS is reaching the enshittification threshold and all those businesses that moved everything into the cloud are about to discover that they're hostages and the sinking empire will drag down a lot of collateral damage with it.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 4 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

Not that my tiny customers have enough of an IT budget to buy their own servers with the recent price hike on memory and ssds.

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 2 points 38 minutes ago (2 children)

Self hosting doesn't necessarily imply you need your own hardware.

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm of the opposite opinion - would you mind elaborating on how a selfhosted-on-nonowned-hardware setup would work?

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

I believe you, but many people self host on rented hardware for various reasons. For example "proper" self hosting comes with upfront cost. But self hosting ln a VPS comes with reliability, uptime, predictability. But you're still the master of the software you host, of backups, etc.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 2 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago) (1 children)

I have also found that self-hosting, even with your own hardware, is significantly cheaper than the premium cloud hosting (AWS, etc). We priced out a VM server at my company and we found we could rebuy the hardware for it every FIVE months, just from the cloud hosting costs. And that is if we were decently disciplined about turning VMs on and off every day (which we all knew was a fantasy).

That caused us to strike out the premium providers. Leaving us with the non-premium ones (Digital Ocean, etc), co-locating, or in-house hosting.

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 2 points 2 minutes ago

I hear you. Personally I never understood the appeal of costly hosting at AWS and such. It just always seemed so expensive. The only benefit it provided, imho, is when you legitimately need to scale very quickly or if you've got a really huge variance in load.

Everything else? My own servers please, and thank you for reading 😁

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 76 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous that a corporate account has a user-upsell ad/button one MUST hit to access the basic settings for the program.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 5 points 52 minutes ago

That’s ~~numberwang~~ Microslop!

[–] blargbluuk@piefed.ca 29 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

One that admins can't even disable, it's bizarre.

[–] Dhs92@piefed.social 2 points 51 minutes ago

You can actually. You have to disable self service licensing for that specific license

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 22 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Only way to fix this is for people and corps to stop giving them money for anything.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

But it's E C O S Y S T E M!

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 7 points 54 minutes ago

The entire French government is abandoning Windows for Linux. It is absolutely possible to change the entire ecosystem; just hard to hit that catalytic point, but more and more people are going that way, thankfully. Maybe they'll even eventually find Lemmy!

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

Stop using American spyware. Theyre basically asking you to pay them to spy on you as well as use their products. Edward Snowden proved his point that we should blacklist the garbage software and hardware that comes from that fascist country.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 9 points 2 hours ago

Weird. I’ve not yet seen this on my Teams. It would piss me off if I did, but then again Teams pisses me off all the time anyway.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 3 points 1 hour ago

While I sympathize with this issue...

Boy do I dislike articles where the entire headline is "____ is angry about ____".

And people click it, because they're all, "Oh boy, what do I get to be mad about today?"

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Fuck Microsoft

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 50 minutes ago

Sincerely,
France

[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

This is what I think of when I think of Teams: a mish-mashed pile of garbage where each individual component belongs to a different team. And nobody has any idea what any other team is doing.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 16 points 1 hour ago

The irony of making people look at AI while complaining about a company that makes people look at AI

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Dude, (and I’m being 100% honest here). My buddy works on one of the teams teams, and you are entirely correct.

[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We’ve had this „upgrade to premium“ icon appear on my machine’s teams but not on my workmates‘ which was setup using the same process as mine.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 2 points 40 minutes ago

My Buddy told me their managers get a report on who ISNT using AI enough every week. They are literally being forced to use AI and the resulting code is of course 50% shit.