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[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 8 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

One time at a startup I had a bunch of mandatory document training that started day 1 and didn’t have a concrete timeline. I finished in the four hours I had on the first day, but pretended to still be reading them for the full second day as well. Go to my boss day 3 and tell him I’m done, and he said “Already?!” with narrowed eyes.

It was so weird, how long did he expect it to take? I later realized that he fully expected me to memorize every one of the many technical documents, and not just remember what information was where so I could look it up when I needed it. He also refused to give me what hours he wanted me to be there, which I thought was laid back but later learned was his way of saying “I expect you to get here before me and leave after me, which is a twelve hour period that moves four hours in either direction depending on my mood.”

But to put all of that in context you have to remember the pay, which was also bad.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm working at a mega Corp now (not one you've probably heard of) and it's a fucking farce.

We had a meeting last week about some problems with the current process. People kind of nodded along. Meeting was drawing to a close. No concrete tasks or assignments.

I say, "great. Who's taking lead on this? Can we have a proposal by Monday and make a decision by Wednesday?"

Suddenly management people are like "whoa whoa whoa stay in your lane"

Okay then why don't you fucking manage?

This happens all the time. We have long ass meetings with the whole team, talk about problems, but then no one is assigned to do anything and nothing changes.

There's just so much incompetence and ineptitude. Some of it is probably coming from hidden, bad, incentives

[–] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 3 points 15 minutes ago

Sounds like Honeywell.

[–] Yankee_Self_Loader@lemmy.world 20 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

So yes there is unfortunately a small number of people in the corporate world who need that specific training but what it mostly is is plausible deniability for the company. In case you do get your password stolen or some such the company can then turn around and say that you had the mandated security training which makes it easier to let you go. It’s all so they can cover their asses

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 7 points 1 hour ago

I have told my coworkers before.

The company does not make you take ladder training so you can learn how to climb a ladder, its so if you fall off, a lawyer can ask if you were following the ladder training exactly.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago

Could also be some compliance thing. The only job where I had mandatory security training was incidentally the same one where I had mandatory HIPAA training.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 1 hour ago

Funny enough I’ve worked at several companies where they will tell you to take the training and if you don’t do it they’ll keep telling you but after a while they just stop.

[–] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 118 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Like anyone in a corporate job has correct access on day 1

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 hour ago

It's not always for lack of trying. I spent a year or so building the integration (from a box of scraps!) between the shiny new HR system and our IDP. This integration was supposed to be functional out of the box according to the HR system salesgoblin. It didn't just need to be configured, it needed to be built from scratch because they didn't actually support hybrid AD/Entra setups managed from the AD side. Which was only the unofficial standard for Windows based shops at the time.

Anyway, I wanted to make it grant employees access to shit based off a combo of Job Title and Department. On a technical level, it's basic baby stuff. Concatenate the Dept and Title into a string, use that as the key to a hashtable with the access they need listed. Bish bash bosh, bob's your uncle.

It would have been a cakewalk compared to all the shit I had to build for handling separations and all the data retention shit around those.

But none of the department managers could actually tell us what the fuck their workers needed access to. Like maybe 3% had any idea at all. And I didn't have the team or time to try and do data analytics across the access of everyone at the company just to get an unreliable best guess.

So it just handles setting new hires up with the basic access everyone gets and separations. Still a savings of ~1 hour per employee.


It's been something like 7 years since I built that integration. They're finally going to replace it with a true access management platform. It's cost them multiple millions so far, has an entire new department dedicated to the thing, it has been "in-progress" for two years, and it still hasn't replaced my shit yet.

My favorite part is when they come to me months in to something they're trying to get working, and I'm able to point them at where they made mistaken assunptions at the first step leading to the mess they're currently in.

I provided a ton of in-depth notes on our current standards, the weird gotchas/deviations, every single stumbling block and edge case I had found, all the seemingly logical and safe assumptions that don't actually hold. I don't think they read any of it. I keep asking them to reach out before they start working on a new piece of functionality. They don't.

So now I get to tell them things like "that assumption you built this piece of logic off of will bite you in the ass in this specific way", they say they'll take it under consideration, and I laugh knowing this whole project will probably implode under the weight of incorrect assumptions before it's finished.

[–] bigboismith@lemmy.world 59 points 4 hours ago

A Password is a thing that protects you from hackers. If you work here for long enough, you might even get your own account.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

heck, i had a consultancy gig where the customer wanted me on-site for intro 400km away, and i had to spend a few days with no hardware at all, never mind access. also it was a high-security thing so i had to be escorted around at all times until they could sort out the badge thing. very productive week, that. at least got a few hotel breakfasts out of it.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I sure hope you got paid for just milling about.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

oh loads. my rate was 100€/h for that, plus travel, food, and accommodation. not that i got all of that money but it definitely hurt them more than it hurt me.

[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

End of week one: "you should have your work account by this time next week... at the earliest"

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Now, let’s discuss fraud, waste, and abuse.

[–] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago

can't get an interview unless you've been doing the exact job they're hiring for for the last five years, but once you're hired they assume it's your first day on earth

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 22 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Corporate fishing training makes me feel genuinely bad for the people who actually need it. I can't say it's through "no" fault of their own, but I at least recognize I was greatly privileged to grow up in an era where I had home computing technology nearly all of my life but there was enough friction that I had to learn how to be smart about it. Some of it really is statistically the era they grew up in, and it makes me reflect if, in 30 years, I'll be getting training on how not to get blip blop zooped by a schmazdazzler and get all the questions wrong because the answer was that you never smap your smoop with a schmazdazzler.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Big Corpo HR: "We're going to need you to watch 8 hours of videos about 'empathy' and 'active listening'."

6 hours later...

"...and body language is very important. It's perfectly ok to rest your chin on your hand but DO NOT cover your mouth because it gives the impression that you're holding something back."

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

“Now we need you to watch 4 hours of videos to teach you how not to sexually harass everybody.”

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Accidentally harass anyone. You have to be careful because it's easy to say things that are not necessarily intended to cause offense but could be perceived offensively by the other party.

Things like, "Wow! You look great today, Janice. That top really accents your tits."

Or, "Ryan, I think you would be a great fit for the managers job. If your interested, you should stop by my place tonight and fuck my brains out."

Now, as innocent as both of those scenarios might appear on the surface, they are both examples of different types of sexual harassment.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 29 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Nearly accurate. Apart from corporate job only providing you a laptop after a week or two because someone forgot to notify the IT about your starting date or the IT processing jobs in the order of receiving them rather than urgency of these.

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 23 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Don't put that shit on IT. HR is the department that can't get the fuckin onboarding form right, can't send it to the right people, or just straight up don't do one and expect us to be mind reader's.

[–] kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I used to work in IT. At one point we ordered like 100 laptops from Dell, and they pretty much just said lol no. Apparently one of the business teams needed to renegotiate our contract with them or something. It was 3 months before we got any computers from Dell. Warranty replacements or otherwise. We had people with 6 figure salaries sharing laptops. We were stealing desktops from engineering to replace production systems. And no, we couldn’t get the green light to just go to Best Buy and buy some computers or anything like that.

Gotta love corporate efficiency.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I have seen both, including the IT only placing an order one day before someone was starting.

[–] varden@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

In my own experience as an IT tech, this is still on HR because HR is still adding people to the job past the deadline to be able to ship stuff out in time. We do what we can but we're not miracle workers. Can't ship stuff to someone if we don't have their name or address.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 3 hours ago

I'm in IT and I still don't have one after 7 months.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 12 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

A password is something we send via email when someone else wants access to the admin account.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

Rookie mistake. The password is what we write on a sticky note and tape to the edge of our screen.

Birthright membership in the Domain Admins group is what keeps all our users from being pestered when they want to install that neat new tool they found. Then you don't need to harden the built in admin account against attacks, you can just disable it!

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hilariously if this is internal only, it may be "secure in transit" as most mail doesnt flow over SMTP in that case. Some vendors, including m365, also encrypt mail by default between other m365 users, and I think all of gmail last I checked.

If that password isn't then deleted from email or is otherwise archived automatically, then you have problems.

Cc: all@verysecurecorporation.com so we don't have to keep sending it whenever somebody asks.

[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

(I’m given 20 minutes of mandatory training)
“Woah, you’re already done and it’s only noon!? Someone’s a self starter.”