Ah Utah
The medieval backward heartland of the USA
this post was submitted on 03 May 2026
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This is like holding a car manufacturer liable when a teenager drives to a liquor store and uses a fake ID.
Or holding the liquor store liable when a person with a real ID drives to the store in a stolen car
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It's literally going to be easier for websites to just block all Utah IPs and Geolocations.
I’m ok with blocking Utah from the internet. That’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make
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Can we just trade Utah to, I dunno, Mexico for three bucks and a half eaten burrito?
mexico rejects offer, counteroffers three pesos and half eaten burro
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From my point of view, all I want is that Europe doesn't follow the US into suiciding it's own future in Tech by structurally dismounting the workings of the Internet for the purpose of autoritarian surveillance.
Mind you, given the seeming high amounts of corruption and kompromat for European politicians - especially EU ones - I fear that even here they might send us down the path of Technological Black Age to satisfy the short term desires of whatever large American Tech Companies that have them in their pockets or populist American or Israeli politicians holding kompromat on them.
Von der Leyen keeps pushing for Chat Control. Plus the age verification app they want to release. The EU is already following the US
Yeah, I noticed.
I have zero hope of the EU comission not being complete total crooks sacrificing Europe to serve corporate America.
My hope is on the EU Parliament and on national governments, not the unelected "jobs for the boys" naturally rotten part of the EU "management".
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Palantir is very active in Europe. They'll do their darndest to make surveillance states happen.
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Websites need to block all Utah traffic. If their leaders are going to be shitheads, then no traffic for you until you elect new leaders.
Traffic coming from Utah? Believe it or not, jail.
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Wait, how long until literally any software business realizes what this is, and hard lobbies against it?
You basically must conduct all your business unencrypted in the state of Utah if this is to be understood.
Only business that would require an ID/Age Verification check, but yeah. Except they don't want to hold actual websites liable. They want to hold ISP's liable.
There's literally no way to know if the people using the VPN's are located in Utah. So this law would be unenforceable against actual websites.
It might possibly be enforceable against ISP's but the problem is, once you fire up a VPN your ISP can only see your entry point and maybe that there is a volume of traffic going to and from your device. They can't see what websites you visit (provided your VPN is properly configured).
I also don't understand how this bill could effectively lay any blame against the websites for knowing you use a VPN because they also can't see any of that information. They know that you visited and from a specific IP "located" in "place" and they can either assume that the use of a VPN means you're in Utah (very unlikely), or they can assume you're not (more likely given the population that lives outside Utah).
they will use this specifically to prosecute whoever they choose and will only enforce it for that reason
utah must have a porn problem, because they have pretty high traffic to PH, or its affiliates.
Wait… this is specifically about websites?
Easy solution: stick your website behind a CDN. That way, people are using a VPN to contact a CDN, and only the CDN ever connects to your website.
And if Utah thinks two degrees of separation isn’t enough… well, it’s likely that every legislator in Utah is two degrees away from someone who will break this law, so they should obviously be the first to be subject to its penalties.
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Utah flexing those evil Mormon muscles huh? Well get bent Utah and get fucked Mormons.
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Religion is delusional mass psychosis.
Good thing my firm doesn’t have an office in UT; we’re all on a VPN to work from home.
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