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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

OP is wearing rose colored glasses, yes 10 was better but 10 was a turd in a blanket but you could do workarounds to keep that turd covered, 11 just took the blanket away and exposed the turd .. . all the time.

Like Trump accelerating the transition to renewables and e vehicles across the world with his bumbling incompetence, MS is hastening the transition to Linux from theres, i was there from MS DOS days until early 10.

They really just need to use the Linux Kernel and do their own "Windows" skin on top, like Tuxedo etal

i gave up and have been on Linux Mint then LMDE for 4 years now, fucking hell, all i want to do is click the icon on the toolbar and use the app i selected. My gf uses 11 on her laptop.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 20 hours ago

The only thing i wish is that i could alias win-style drive letters (complete with colon)

Muscle memory is a biiiitch

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago

I think it's an inevitability that Microsoft contributes to Wine and switches to maintaining a Debian distro. They know they don't have enough skilled developers to continue improving windows.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Use Windows 11 at work. Was using 10 at home. Seeing what my future looked like if I went to 10, I installed CachyOS instead. After 4 months of CachyOS, I'm not going back to Windows even if you pay me.

[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Windows 3.11 or bust.

You can pry my Workgroups from my cold, dead, hands.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Leave windows, embrace linux

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[–] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Windows 2000 was the absolute best windows hands down.

But now it's cachyos for me going forward. Never again will I install windows.

[–] one5low7@lemmy.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

XP was beast they had to give away free upgrades to get people off it

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I've used it recently. The ui is still snappier on the original machine than w11 today on a new one.

I'd be interested knowing why it got so bad. Is it for lack of time or focus on optimization? Is there a reason lazy loading isn't used? Why is the tooling so convoluted, by choice or as a victim of ever growing complexity?

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[–] quack@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Windows 10 was never good, it just looks good compared to the radioactive slag heap that is Windows 11.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 day ago

tbh the only problem with Windows 10 for me was the telemetry/Forced Edge,which could've been disabled via scripts,as well as lower responsiveness(maybe placebo effect?). but Windows 11, literally some parts of the Operating System use Chromium. Please keep Chromium/Electron/CEF On Desktop apps, i hope other oses wont try to copy this.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 214 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 20 points 1 day ago

I dont miss windows at all.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lame. Should have gone back to Windows 7.

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[–] Hupf@feddit.org 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Of course opening the context menu takes its time. It's gotta load a whole Electron framework first.

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[–] Jaimesmith@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Going back to Windows 10 feels like removing ankle weights you forgot you were wearing.

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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 134 points 2 days ago (8 children)

This is a frustration of mine with software. We make all these gains with hardware just to occupy the new capacity with cruft. I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.

This is literally what Linux is always like and it never slows down even after decades. It boots and shuts down in about 3 seconds each. Join us; I spent a lot of time typing a foolproof guide recently. Let me see it actually get used lol!

I just played a game on Steam earlier tonight with friends; it launched WINE under the hood so invisibly that I couldn't believe I wasn't playing it on Windows. Nearly everything is cross-compatible these years with WINE, Bottles, Proton, Lutron, etc. There is basically no fear. If anything, the software typically performs even better.

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[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Windows 10 was fine until they started trying to patch all the ways to avoid using a Microsoft account. Windows 11 is horrendously worse.

My work laptop, a Surface Laptop 7th gen, runs Windows 11. Adobe Acrobat will grind it to a halt. Fucking how.

[–] outerzenith@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Adobe Acrobat will grind it to a halt.

to be fair, Acrobat itself is a very heavy heap of dung. There's no reason for anyone to use it if all they do with a .pdf is reading.

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just because 11 is worse doesn't mean 10 was good. 10 was a shit-show from the get-go. It came with aggressive dark patterns trying to trick people into installing it over their Win 7 and 8 machines, came with mandatory telemetry, ads in the start menu and a built-in keylogger.

So it's not "fuck 11". It's "fuck Windows".

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

Agreed on all points.

At least 10 could be unshittified to an extent. But I don't run Windows on any personal machines at all anymore, so its a moot point. My work laptop belongs to the company and is managed by them.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

god i hate the constant "LOG INTO AN ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW" with passion. i once had to log into a coworkers teams account and apparently windows decided that's good enough and automatically & without asking linked my entire local windows account with her work microsoft account

one log in took hours to undo

learnt my lesson - never log into microsoft through any of their apps, only ever use web based alternatives (and never on your main browser either, as sometimes logging out is just as painful as logging in)

[–] Jako302@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Android does pretty much the same thing with Google accounts.

"Oh you logged into YouTube music? Here, we added that account to your phone. You can now view alp Emails, access payment options and view the entire browser history without additional confirmation."

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[–] NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Penguin noises intensifies

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Win10 is when telemetry was implemented for the first time. You'd better be off with win8.1 with some custom start menu adjustments or straight back to a heaven of Win7.

Or, inhales deeply, just install Linux and do not bother with MS crap cause Linux just works and there is some sort of a distro for pretty much anyone's taste and preferences that will serve them as good or even better than win10/11/8.1/7.

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

The telemetry all got backported as far as seven and made a mandatory dependency of some security updates, so within a few weeks of 10's launch, you either had telemetry or a machine that wasn't safe to connect to the Internet.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Windows 7 was the peak.

This is not 'things were better when you were fifteen.' I started on Apple fucking II. I remember Windows 95 being new and fancy, and even that 90 MHz 16 MB ass DOS extension of an operating system had better UI and better UX than Windows 10 or 11. 98 was an improvement, NT was a tradeoff, ME was a mistake, XP was a lurching step forward, service packs can burn in hell, Vista doubly so. Windows 7 was the last time the good-bad-good-bad cycle actually worked out. 8 was bad, trying to be a touchscreen OS, and then 8.1 was a band-aid instead of a real fix, and everything since WIndows 10 has been a deliberate disaster. 'We're gonna screenshot your desktop every few seconds because--' Die.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

This is not ‘things were better when you were fifteen.’

It absolutely is rose-colored glasses, whether you realize it or not. This entire thread is.

I think people were just relieved to have a viable upgrade path from XP that wasn't Vista.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

I would be using Windows 7 right now if internet security wasn't a thing. I only gave it up in late 2020. There's still features in Linux Mint that don't work the way I want, because I want them to work like they do in Windows 7.

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[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 16 points 1 day ago

Ah don’t worry, leave it running for an hour and they’ll inject copilot and all the crap you’ve come to loathe.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm in awe of how Microsoft somehow manages to make an OS somehow more dogshit than the last one.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 26 points 2 days ago

Microsoft isn't the interesting one at this point. I'm more in awe of how the userbase just keeps taking that shit. That's a propaganda victory.

At some point Microsoft will publish an update that will shoot the user's dog and they will just share debloating scripts. Linux is free only if your time yadda yadda.

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[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 30 points 2 days ago

Internet was down at work today, I tried to use the start menu on a coworkers computer to search for an app.

Got a 'connection timed out' message instead, and had to scroll through the list like a rube.

[–] wilmo@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Switched to using Linux like 6 years ago. Wouldn't know how bad Windows 11 is but I can only imagine.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

All this can be fixed in Windows 11. One can neuter it to faster-than-Windows 10.

…Thing is, if default Windows 11 is so bad, why spend weeks and weeks learning how to mess with it? For the same mental energy, learn partitioning and install Linux, or W10 like OP.

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