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[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Mullvad vpn

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Every free VPN in the world spies on you.

If you want a VPN that actually respects your privacy, you must pay for it.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago

Well, yeah. You still have to be careful with it. But at least it's possible to find a good paid one.

Some paid VPNs spy on you. All free VPNs spy on you.

[–] Geodes_n_Gems@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

ProtonVPN doesn't

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what you were expecting.

You more or less have to have an account to use a paid feature. Especially for a free trial.

It's only Mulvad (which is apparently what Firefox uses under the hood) who doesn't use an email address as an identifier.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

iiuc Firefox uses Mullvad for original paid VPN service but their new freemium one is through Fastly (?)

[–] Lychee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean the same Fastly as in CDN? That's a nope for me

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Yep, Fastly the CDN company (doing HTTPS mitm-as-a-service for millions of websites) which Apple also uses (along with CloudFlare) for their similar iCloud Private Relay feature.

Unlike Apple though, Firefox's new "built-in VPN" does not claim (falsely) to use different providers for ingress and egress.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Ya, I just noped that right off the toolbar when it popped up. "Enable our data mining tool!... For security!"

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

you guys still use native ff?

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All of the reasons for switching away from native Firefox don't hold up to scrutiny, and there are real disadvantages to switching away.

[–] Geodes_n_Gems@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I was so much happier switching to Librewolf TBH

[–] kolle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I moved off to forks of chromium and ff

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i did this with iceweasel and learned that those forks always go dormant eventually. they sometimes get revived like iceweasel did, but you should atleast expect to keep jumping from active fork to active fork.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

aw damn :( this is true. zen and chromium seem to have solid update schedules after some poking around. librewolf isn’t too bad either but def agreed with you

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i'm dreading the day that i have to give up on mozilla permanently and switch to some sort of chromium browser because of it.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

unfortunately I have to use what the mass populace uses for testing / development

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i'll always be convinced that front end guy always have it the worst; both from the masses and the frequently changing casts of frameworks.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

pretty much ><